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Comments:Julia, my card has been automatically billed for this for the last two or mroe years. ash@igc.org Let's confer.
March 10, 2010 11:31:12 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Julia, Joe just said he was getting billed for this, "my credit card is automatically charged $41.95 twice per year for hosting and $19.95 once per year for domain registration." Is there double billing going on here?
March 10, 2010 06:35:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Julia Gosztyla Ziobro
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Comments:Hello friends... the bill to host this site has come due again. I need two things: 1) Someone needs to pay for 2010 hosting. I have gotten some donations in the past and have paid for it myself a few years. My family CANNOT afford to make this gift this year; my husband has been out of work for a year and things are quite difficult for us. 2) Someone fairly responsible :-) needs to take over as the billing contact for the hosting company. It is not a big thing, but it is necessary to keep this site and domain name alive. Thanks and I hope that everyone is doing really well.
March 10, 2010 01:03:11 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I'm reminded of a story Bob Trausch once told. He was on his way to the test site for an action and he was trying to fill his van with local Chico-ans. A couple told him that they couldn't make it but that they'd "go with him in spirit". Bob told him if their bodies wanted to come he had room in the van but he wasn't "taking any spirits".
March 9, 2010 15:16:37 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I love anonymous donations!
March 8, 2010 19:05:28 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Joe, Sending you some love in the form of cash.
March 7, 2010 16:32:19 (GMT Time)


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Comments: No I just wanted to put my two cents in. What the hell does that phrase mean anyway? Besides sounds like Laura is going to cover it thanks Laura.
March 6, 2010 21:05:20 (GMT Time)


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Comments:So does that mean you are going to contribute, Rich?
March 4, 2010 12:58:54 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:And I used a calculator and still got it wrong. according to my recalculation it is 28 cents a day.
March 4, 2010 03:21:48 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:That's .29 of one cent every day. Just thought I'd put my two cents worth in.
March 4, 2010 03:17:31 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Laura, my credit card is automatically charged $41.95 twice per year for hosting and $19.95 once per year for domain registration. My address is Joe Kinczel POB 1754 Nederland CO 80466-1754. Thank you.
March 3, 2010 20:09:50 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Today we have city elections. I have decided to vote for the Party for the Animals. We have a site on internet where you can enter how you feel about certain issues and at the end of a very long list, your take on these issues is put into a graph and you can clearly see which of the 16 political parties that participate in this election gets the closest to where you stand. For the third time in a row this Party for the Animals turns out to be that one. The party I actually voted for in the last two elections comes in a close second. Those last two elections I laughed at the idea of voting for a political party that holds animal welfare central, but they are not a single-issue party and in the end it looks like the way this party sees us all living together in this city, in this country, on this planet, is almost identical to how I think we should do that. So I will vote for them this time, let them speak for me when collective decisions are made.
March 3, 2010 10:25:48 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Joe, How much does it cost and where should I send it?
March 3, 2010 07:06:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:As an example of exactly what is being written about here let me refer to this guest book. Last year I paid the yearly hosting fee for the site and requested several times here that others contribute what they can towards the fee. I received a total of two responses on the guest book, but no money - not one dollar - from anyone. If we paid our taxes like that, nothing would be paid and nothing would get done. I do not mind paying federal taxes or state and local taxes either, but I just want to get something positive and helpful for me and my family from the federal government other than censored reports of dead bodies on the other side of the world and more corporate welfare to prop up the various industries sucking tax dollars out of the government with the connivance of our elected representatives.
February 28, 2010 22:39:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Shanawa, you said, "How about no taxation at all in a system where we all as individuals give to the cause we desire." This is unrealistic. One example- If the Dept. of Transportation in any state had to rely on charity and could not predict their budget then they would have a horrible time planning for road improvements. I could see a return of Mafia influence and exhtortion. They would be sure to divert funds from law enforcement so that they could rule. Only their companies would get contracts. I'm sure the Mafia would "give" to the courts too, so they would own the judges. There would be nobody to defend citizens from the bullies. Your idea requires thoughtful conciencious people everywhere. Humans are selfish by nature. It is our base survival instinct. We grow to share and are taught to consider others(or not). Without a predictable governmental structure supported by taxation we would have chaos and bullies contolling everthing.
February 28, 2010 20:28:54 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The mice have voted to bell the cat. With 300+ million citizens, representative democracy is a necessity...with technology, instant access to and accountability of our representatives is possible. Imagine every bill before congress being available for review by the public, with instant district by district feedback, and a forum where congessmen will have to justify voting against our wishes instantly rather than counting on us forgetting by the next election. An informed population is the foundation of democracy...not just whoever can get in the catchiest soundbite at the last minute. When your representative makes what you think is a bad vote, how do you find out how the district wanted him to vote? Internet? Newspaper? Daily Show?.
February 28, 2010 19:27:56 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:No, it is neither anarchism nor democarcy.
February 28, 2010 18:10:31 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Yeah, that's anarchism. And democracy.
February 27, 2010 17:31:04 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:No James, I never said I was an Anarchist. Although there may be more then one interpretation of anarchism. I simply said that we no longer need representatives as in the old ways of thinking we need to be ruled. We have the Tec. to represent ourselves. Sorry to say but Pauline's country and system is stuffed with socialism, I am no socialist, never will be so I do not agree that it is a good way to be governed. What I am talking about is beyond democracy. Where the minority nor the majority rule over us and make rules we don't need to live under. It is a system where the individual is respected and protected from initiatory force.
February 27, 2010 02:28:30 (GMT Time)


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Comments:...or a truer representative system like in a parliamentary system as Pauline points out.
February 26, 2010 23:51:53 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Oh. So you're an anarchist, Shanawa? Anarchy simply means without leader. And people representing themselves IS democracy, just not representative democracy like we have in the U.S..
February 26, 2010 23:50:31 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Obama is a lost cause, How about no taxation at all in a system where we all as individuals give to the cause we desire. Representative government is obsolete and should be made a thing of the past. We now have the technology to represent ourselves. And democracy is as old as ancient Greece. It is a system where the majority are in control thus those that are not actively represented are in the minority. This all leads to the tyranny of the Majority.
February 26, 2010 21:53:03 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
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Comments:Well, it's not exactly representation as long as you have a winner takes all election result. True representation would be in % of the votes.
February 26, 2010 17:48:03 (GMT Time)


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Comments:We certainly are Joe, though it would be hard to prove in court. And besides, corporations are people just like you and me, remember? They're being taxed and represented.
February 26, 2010 16:42:50 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Are we talking taxation without representation, here?
February 26, 2010 12:27:04 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Well, our tax dollars don't get people elected. And that's the problem. ONLY our tax dollars should get people elected.
February 25, 2010 17:48:14 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I just want the best government that money can buy, James - our tax money. Call me hopelessly naive.
February 25, 2010 12:25:36 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Are those rhetorical questions, Joe? The nuclear and coal industries have paid good money to get Obama elected to every office he's served in. Now they'll get their money's worth. Obama said during the election that nuclear power was "on the table".
February 24, 2010 21:30:02 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Why did Obama pledge billions to finance the first nuclear power plant in decades? Bush/Cheney did not even do that. What is he thinking?
February 24, 2010 12:13:50 (GMT Time)


Name:laura M
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Comments:"We must survive this nuclear threshold." Amen to that, Shanawa!
February 23, 2010 06:36:40 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:I wanted to relate on the first of the last three post: All the resources all the nations, Cities, Towns tribes, clans and individuals have ever used throughout our time as a species have been taken from here on Earth Mother.
February 22, 2010 08:03:09 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Like in the king of Sparta urging Agamemnon, king of all of Grease, to go war over a wife that left him. Thus giving Agamemnon the pretext to attack Troy something he wanted to do all along to have control of the Aegean sea. Who knows how we can deal with Jalousie. None of this is based in mysticism, none of it is based on speculation it is based on what is in front of us that we can see touch smell and hear. We are the creators of what we have done and we are the creators of what we will do.
February 22, 2010 07:55:28 (GMT Time)


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Comments:When we take it for granted that we can travel three or four galaxies In three days, Earth time, like we take for granted that we can drive from California to the East coast in three days that is when we will realise that we no longer need war. Or we could say that those in power don't need war. The abundance in our solar system alone would insure no one will be without. With everyone living a life of abundance there no longer is a need to point out someone that has to much, it will no longer be relevant to do so. The 99% of the reason we go to war will no longer be relevant. We would only have to worry about that one percent and that would be jalousie.
February 22, 2010 07:53:58 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Tell it, Tell it Laura. It is so true that we must survive this Nuclear threshold. With Hollywood it is more driven by profit and what sells. Gene's post ascribed to that by indicating that people are making money on fear and using it to gain their profit. Maybe there should be a book written to tell what the positive affects that are coming our way and how they line up with this 2012 prophecy. I suppose that this is itself profiting from the 2012 prophecy but I do know we make money by selling or creating weather we do it from the positive or negative it is what we do. I don't only believe, I know form the reality that is in front of me that we are children of the universe not just the Earth. The acceptance of this knowledge is in itself a lifting of the curtain, a Revelation. 99% of war was fought over raw materials in one form or the other. All the resources all the nations, Cities, Towns tribes, clans and individuals have ever used throughout our time as a species have been taken f
February 22, 2010 07:51:08 (GMT Time)


Name:Laura M
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Comments:Hoo-ha has always been big business, which is why they keep throwing it in our faces and distracting us from what's really important: global nuclear disarmament.
February 22, 2010 07:15:37 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:Interesting fun this morning with 2012 business. It is a business. Look at incredible website (http://www.2012contact.com/): “In 2012, Our Planet Will Become A WAR ZONE – Will You Survive, Or Are You and Your Family Already Doomed?” This guy is selling a book, “2012 Contact: Are You Ready for It?” for $47.00. The site has a countdown clock for hours and minutes: 1033 days and so forth... "I’m Offering You One SINGLE Chance to Ensure Your Survival, and The Survival of Your Loved Ones.” Another website (http://2012apocalypse.net/) says “The 2012 Apocalypse is predicted by an intersection of Religions, Science, and Prophesies. Many Great Prophets, Religious Scriptures, and Scientific evidence point to a possible apocalyptic event happening in the year 2012.” It has fantastic photos. But my main man, James Randi, has an online “Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds, and Hoaxes of the Occult and Supernatural.” There you can read about “Forty-Four End-of-the-World Prophecies - That Failed.” Above
February 21, 2010 18:41:54 (GMT Time)


Name:laura M
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Comments:Confirming the meaning of the word "apocalypse," It's synonymous with "revelation," as in when the magicians of old would say, "All shall be revealed." Supposedly the curtain will be drawn back, as Shanawa puts it, on or beginning on 12/21/12. If our solar system really is "pushing through" the astral plane of the Milky Way, it will be like a birth or emergence (but not an emergency). Personally, I do not ascribe to the hoo-ha about apocalyptic destruction (unless humans stupidly set themselves ablaze, which is, with 17.000 nukes still on the planet, an unfortunate possibility), and the Hollywood 2012 version is, I believe, created to distract people from learning the astronomical facts (though the special effects were awesome). If you believe the disaster scenario, better find yourself some high ground and pack a whole lotta pemmikan for the duration. If you believe the scientific version, gather some friends, light a fire in the fireplace, and celebrate a New Age. Peace out.
February 21, 2010 07:21:56 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Yes Ted land loards have there own time too.
February 21, 2010 01:43:12 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:This is all well and good, but my landlord will still want his rent by the 5th...and the 5th after that.
February 20, 2010 23:55:56 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:It is we that were set here as the creators of what we make. We create pollution and we find ways to create that which limit that pollution or do away with it altogether. If we create things that harm the environment that keeps us alive we take steps to stop the harm. This is all part of our evolution our existence.
February 20, 2010 20:36:33 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Great post Laura, the reason I say that is because it deals in reality and facts, time dose exist outside what we have mimicked and created. Since the Universe is continual and always expanding it goes to reason that time never ends except in the realization that our (people of the Earth) persecution of time is not the only way time exists. Being that time is associated with conscious, as in a baby don't become aware of its life till much later in life the same goes with us as people on the Earth. The Apocalypse itself is the opening of the curtain, the realization that we are children of the universe, that the Universe like time are never ending and always expanding thus our ability to improve our conscious is never ending and always expanding. That is why when we see what we can't stand about ourselves we take steps to change it individually, and as a civilization.
February 20, 2010 20:35:56 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The whole 2012 phenomenon is a point of personal fascination, so I have been gathering info, (though I have yet to stash 40 days worth of food and water). From what I can figure, Dec 21, 2012 marks not the end of the earth but the end of time as we have conceptualized it. Supposedly, time DOES exist outside the human realm, and it goes through huge cycles of expansion and compression, kind of like the universe is breathing. We are, according to this, um, legend, coming to the end of a cycle. Time will cease to compress and start to expand. Should be a nice feeling! By the way, there is also an actual astronomical phenomenon that will occur on that day: the "equator" of our solar system will cross the "equator" of the Milky Way. Seems like someone should invent a new dance, no? Peace and Love, yall...
February 20, 2010 13:55:49 (GMT Time)


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Comments:In Costa Rica in 1948 the head of the military that was being abolished handed over the keys to his headquarters to the ministry of education. How is that for peace? My best guess is that the US will spend 1.75 trillion dollars on the military in 2010. How is that for war? It is a matter of dollars and sense - common sense.
February 19, 2010 18:26:37 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Interesting topic....I remember a long time back we discussed War and Peace...I remarked that War is easy to define (killing, etc.) but that Peace is harder, and that the absence of War wasn't sufficient as a definition. Similiar situation....Evil triumphs, misery and death are pretty universal...Good prevails...are the effects universal?. We all have our conditions for peace, personally it includes Celine Dion never recording again...probably conflicts with her peace though, see?.And as for Good winning, I'll settle for Better over Worse. And it was Dark Helmet who said "Evil will win, because Good is dumb"
February 19, 2010 16:09:54 (GMT Time)


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Comments:That is interesting Shanawa, thank you. I did not know about these other meanings of the word apocalypse. I was using it to refer to global-sized, end-of-the-world disasters which is the only definition I ever had for the word. I certainly would love to see some movies that explore the ultimate triumph of good over evil.
February 18, 2010 21:12:59 (GMT Time)


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Comments:My daughter is asking the same questions Joe. I continue to tell her that the world we know is always going through change. The constant change in life and the Universe forces us to adapt and improvise in our daily lives. There is only one thing that you pointed to in your post that bugs me, it's the way you use the term Apocalyptic. It must be from the movie Apocalypse Now that had brought on this negative stigmatism association with the word Apocalypse. It's true meaning is more to the effect of, removing the curtain, the revealing. In looking at the dictionary it has many definitions but the ones that stand out to me are: any revelation or prophecy a prophetic revelation, concerning a cataclysm in which the forces of good permanently triumph over the forces of evil, any of a class of Jewish or Christian writings that appeared from about 200 b.c. to a.d. 350 and were assumed to make revelations of the ultimate divine purpose. I an not religious but these are positive definitions.
February 17, 2010 22:40:30 (GMT Time)


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Comments:How are you Barbara? Are your kids and your family doing well?
February 17, 2010 22:16:51 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Gosh Joe, ya gotta wonder what Hollywood is doing to the psyche of our youth. I hope the desolate future story lines don't breed more, "take it while you can get it" behavior. Our planet can't sustain that. I'm glad Alexander recognizes that he has seen enough. Hope is essential. We need him to carry the flame into the future.
February 17, 2010 22:11:30 (GMT Time)


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Comments:My son Alexander and I love to go to the movies and while we were home in Colorado we went to see a bunch of movies in Boulder. Many of them dealt with the future and almost all of them were relentlessly negative or even apocalyptic about the fate of the human species and the fate of this planet. The Road, 2012, Avatar, The Book of Eli and others all paint a desolate picture of the future that our children will inherit - clearly it is the zeitgeist in the USA. Alexander said to me, "Dad I don't want to see anymore movies like this for a while. Do you think that the world is going to end soon? Do you think that my future is going to be like that in these movies?" No, I do not Alexander. I think that we will forever continue to struggle for peace and justice in a world filled with greed, hatred and ignorance. This struggle is within ourselves as well as outside of ourselves in the world. In fact, there is no difference between the inner and outer struggle or inner and outer.
February 17, 2010 14:28:51 (GMT Time)


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Comments:But WHY speculate or waist time and energy on figuring out WHY the calendar ends on 2012? If there are no years after 2012 then there will be no years after 2012. If the world ends in 2012 it will happen on the day it ends. Is there a day after the last day??? Are there weeks and months after the last day??? what kind of dribble are those last two question? Time as we know it is related to the Earth and nothing else in the universe except our own solar systems sun. Days, weeks, months, years and time are directly related to the spinning of the earth and its position as it revolves around the sun. The Mayan calender will still be the Mayan calender worthless or not. Go to a web sight on this??? My question is why wast my time on this mysticism. I do believe in a big, beautiful, terrific picture of the future though.
February 17, 2010 09:34:39 (GMT Time)


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Comments:But WHY does the calendar end in 2012? Are there no years after that? On what DAY does it end in 2012? Is there a day after the last day? Are there weeks and months after the last day? The Mayan Calendar, it seems, will be worthless very soon. Actually, there is a great website discussing all this, and it has a big, beautiful, terrific picture of "2012" the movie. See link above.
February 17, 2010 05:04:24 (GMT Time)


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Comments:You know me when it comes to politics, I care for neither Obama's garbage nor do I care for Sarah Palin's same old repelican trash. You can thank Obama for bringing in Palin just as Bush brought in Obama. The good old Ping Pong political game at it's best. But you should be estatic at the fact that a woman will be president now that we got a black man as president mystery out of the way and illuminated.
February 16, 2010 20:38:39 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The Mayans never said the world ends in 2012, It is simply the end of the Mayan calender. It is the White society that has fabricated all the bullshit associated with the Mayan calender, a-non-mouse
February 16, 2010 20:18:49 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Don't worry bout it. Mayans say the world ends in 2012 anyway.
February 16, 2010 14:33:06 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Republican Ticket: Palin/Armageddon 2012.
February 14, 2010 18:21:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Tall Bicycle Frank
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Comments:Hello old friends hello. I am up to about an eye and four-fifths. I have been back at work after two weeks off. So much going on! We would be ready for a magnetic Focus that hugs the ground--those magnets only repel at a short distance, at least the ones I have held. Maybe it can harvest grain and bake bread as it skims along. Gene, I will be reading your learned disquisitions as time permits. Crystal is working hard and needing help to pass at the very tough Environmental Charter High School. Happy Valentine Day and may everyone find the love they wish for--without undue smugness from those of us who have.
February 14, 2010 18:18:32 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Well... such a cheery anonymouse. Call it blind naivete but I simply cannot imagine an America that would vote in Sarah Palin as president. I've been wrong before but I will hold on to that belief until the day she is elected President, at which point I will have to go "media-free" until I hear the all-clear siren to prevent my head from exploding 30 times a day...
February 12, 2010 22:01:47 (GMT Time)


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Comments:In 1976, Reagan received one vote in the electoral college. The vote was a protest of the electoral college. He chose Reagan because he thought that such an unlikely candidate would get attention. We're in the exact same place right now. Carter came in after Nixon/Ford; the Republicans fought him at every turn so they could say "see, Democrats can't do anything" setting us up for 12 years of repubs. Get ready for 12 years of repubs starting in 2012.
February 12, 2010 20:27:19 (GMT Time)


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Comments:That is exactly the situation at a place in California. Keough Hot Spring (link above) is a resort outside of Bishop. Not luxurious as is Tabacün: you can stay in a cabin for $75 a night, in your own tent for $20.00 per night. Or you can pay $8 for a day pass. Not bad for soaking and swimming in full view of the magnificent Sierra Nevada Mountains! Still, most people prefer to use the run-off from the resort, what is called the Keough Hot Ditch which is FREE. Yes, Joe, I love hot springs so much – and I would hate a President Palin so much – that Tabacün would be a real possibility. But Palin or no Palin, you’ve given me a new dream and desire in life: I want to see lovely Tabacün, and even stay there one night for $260.
February 12, 2010 17:17:08 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The beautiful thing is Gene, that 100 yards down and across the road from the resort is an open spot where all the locals lounge in the same water for free! You can't stop the river! Green Valley/Tabacon here we come! As for Palin, anything is possible, right? I mean we had Reagan and then W for two terms each. I remember thinking that nobody would vote for a a bad actor with bad ideas like Reagan, but I underestimated the stupidity and self-destructiveness of my fellow Americans. I am still shocked about W's non-election as well. Anyway, Tabacon is amazing.
February 12, 2010 12:46:01 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Wow! I imagined Tabacόn as a wild place in the mountains, an undeveloped hot spring one would have to hike and climb for miles to reach. I did a Google search, never expecting to find anything. But oh, man - what a website (above) it took me to! Tabacón Grand Spa Thermal Resort is a five-star chalet, one of “The Leading Hotels of the World.” I read that “The mineral-rich waterfalls and pools are kept warm naturally — anywhere from 80 to 104 degrees — courtesy of the active Arenal Volcano.” It has “twelve natural thermal spring pools and lagoons, waterfalls, exotic gardens and trails.” Take the virtual tour to see how fabulous this place is. Okay, after we find ourselves faced with a President Palin, why don’t all we Peace Marchers go down and live in Tabacόn Hot Springs in Costa Rica? It will remind us of the great time we had in Green Valley Spa, Utah. But that was free and Tabacόn is $260 a night
February 12, 2010 06:50:38 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Gene, I think that you would be very happy at Tabacon Hot Springs here in Costa Rica. It is truly amazing - the best that I have ever experienced. On the whole, the political experience in the US for my entire life has fluctuated between tragedy/catastrophe and comedy/farce. It really is time for another American revolution and I do not mean the revolution proposed by the Tea Party Nazis.
February 11, 2010 20:31:39 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Still caught up in thinking another race or gender will make a better politician or president? I tell you there is no difference whether it be male, female, black, yellow, brown, red or white. A politician is a politician. They live like the rich and do nothing for the money they get but make us feel they are needed in there big back and forth game of politics. And Democracy is a mockery, it is nothing but the tyranny of the majority. It was a stepping stone in the way we govern ourselves but by no means the ideal. We must evolve out of the thinking, democracy, is the best form of government.
February 11, 2010 02:03:14 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Yes, Joe! And it looks like we may soon have the results of an election that is both a comedy AND a tragedy – Sarah Palin. Then we’ll all follow you to Costa Rica.
February 10, 2010 15:05:38 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Costa Rica now has its first female president. Laura Chinchilla won the presidency on Sunday with about 70%-75% of the electorate voting. She split the popular and direct vote with 8 other candidates. Her party did not win a majority of the assembly seats and she will have to work with one or more other parties to pass legislation through the assembly. It was an interesting experience to witness another country's presidential election. I had seen a presidential election in the USSR. I have lived through a bunch of them in the US. I would have to say that Costa Rica's election was more democratic than those of either the US or USSR. The USSR's election that I saw was a comedy. Several in the US have been tragedies. That was for you Gene.
February 9, 2010 19:08:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Well Ted, ik ben een volslagen idioot when it comes to computers!
February 7, 2010 09:28:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Noone, just was wondering what the Dutch was for utter...
February 5, 2010 20:13:42 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Close enough Ted! Who's been giving you Dutch lessens?
February 4, 2010 18:00:29 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Paaulien, would that be an Ontlokken Idiot.
February 4, 2010 05:17:44 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:This Sunday Costa Rica will have an election for president, two vice-presidents and the legislative assembly which is one house of 57 seats. Oscar Arias has served two terms separated by some years and must leave office. There are four major candidates and five minor candidates for president. They range from Christian Communists (How do we wrap our heads around that Gene?) on the left to Social Democrats on the right. The furthest right would be considered a progressive Democrat on most but not all issues in the US. The front-runner is a woman, who is Arias' hand-picked successor. Her name is Laura Chinchilla. She is one of the two most right-wing candidates, but again most of the time she would fit right in with progressives in the Democratic Party in the USA. Costa Rica is very Roman Catholic and the church influences politics greatly, though it holds a progressive viewpoint on most social justice issues. However, abortion is illegal here thanks in large part to the Catholic church.
February 3, 2010 20:25:14 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Yes Joe, I too am pleased to see folks back on the page! Enjoyed your annual family letter very much, dear friend. Glad to hear you all are doing well adjusting to such a big change. I was wondering about Facebook, but for privacy reasons... besides that, also wondering how much time it would swallow up. Tried to send a very interesting map, but for some reason my new computer won't turn the damned thing into something you click on and it opens. Supposedly a computer for the complete idiot, I should have asked for one for the complete and UTTER idiot! Well, I am wondering what your comments are now. Much, much love you old peacemarchers!
February 3, 2010 08:39:14 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
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Comments:amazing map: http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html
February 3, 2010 08:14:14 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Gene, I heard on the radio that individuals can actually donate their skull, post mortem, to Shakspearian theatre groups. I immediately thought of you continuing on after death, center stage, in Hamlet.
February 3, 2010 05:22:55 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
Email:
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Comments:Trusting politicians, what a trap. You all had such faith in Obama because he was black and represented change. He is just another politician playing ping pong with our hearts and minds. Any bets on him getting reelected? Just one year and he has done nothing but screw things up more.
February 3, 2010 02:48:08 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Yes, Prince Hal has left behind his youthful liberalism to take on the conservative mantle of power.
February 3, 2010 00:29:29 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
Email:
HomePage:http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewarticle.asp?AuthorID=11997
Comments:Ah yes, Joe! You tell it just the way it is. I will be doing the same in an address to the Unitarians here in Rossmoor. “Love or War: Shakespeare and Obama on Saint Valentine’s Day” is the name of my talk. You can read it at the link above.
February 2, 2010 16:36:02 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:Sunny and Warm in Heredia
HomePage:http://thekinczelscostaricanadventure.blogspot.com/
Comments:Glad to see folks back here. This forum suits me better than Facebook, though I am trying to use Facebook more. Obama's main accomplishment which was a huge historical achievement was to get elected president. Of course he has an impossible job and unfortunately he is doing terribly at this impossible job. He has erred towards the right on every major issue. He has poured our money into the top of the economy through the criminal banks. He has opted for a health care plan that primarily benefits large medical corporations of all types. He has seriously ramped up the world war of terror on Islam. His Nobel speech was an abomination. His state of the union speech was another attempt to reach rightwards out to Republicans who have no coherent or consistent ideas and have turned away every overture and voted as a unified block against every major Obama initiative. It seems that the real opposition to Obama's policies are Democratic progressives whose ideas have been ignored. Viva Kucinich!
February 1, 2010 14:39:39 (GMT Time)


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Comments:They made Obama a janitor, cleaning up the horrible mess from the eight year frat party called Bush/Cheney. Spilled drinks everywhere, drunk guests on the floor--vomit, pee. Of course, the Republicans tell us he made the mess when he wasn't allowed at the party. They also say he is doing a lousy job cleaning.
January 30, 2010 19:06:10 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/01/29/notes012910.DTL
Comments:America gives black man worst job....ever.
January 30, 2010 07:49:47 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:James and Ted, that is just so funny!
January 30, 2010 07:25:44 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:HUMMER flying car...with electro grill bumper....with bacon chute glove compartment...and teflon console serving tray..I am so there.
January 30, 2010 07:12:04 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:No Ted, we'll all have force fields by then to protect us... our main concern will be to not hit all those pigs. With wings. Flying.
January 30, 2010 00:48:00 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Have to say, given how badly people drive in a 2-D environment, imagining a 3-D scenario (flying cars) is just scary.
January 29, 2010 19:11:24 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Nah, I sign my shit. I tend to agree with the anonymouse though, anyone f--k with my desert hide outs and they'll get my monkey wrench right up their bulldozer.
January 29, 2010 18:15:26 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
Email:
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Comments:Aah good to stir up conversation again, its been a while since we had any here, to bad I don't know who I'm talking to. I like the desert the way it is too, as far as no more roads that itself would free an enormous amount of land for growing food. As far as anti gravity and the study of science I don't know if I agree with you on that one, many things that became real came to us through science fiction, the wonder and thinking of the mind. I read some where and for the life of me I can't remember or find the article but one of the ways that science has found to create anti gravity cars is using the earths magnetic force and reversing the polarity of the floating cars, kind of like when you see two magnets repel each other. Well anonymous keep talking but it would be nice to know who you are, don't be afraid, come out of the closet and be free to speak, or write ,you mind. Is that you James, my old peace march pal and word sparing friend?
January 29, 2010 17:39:30 (GMT Time)


Name:
Email:
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Comments:Anti-Gravity? Flying Cars? Bring It!!!!!
January 29, 2010 08:40:40 (GMT Time)


Name:
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:"proposes turning the deserts green by using etheric weather engineering technology" This sounds horrible. Desert ecology is so very valuable. What a crazy idea to further alter the natural ecology of the desert to serve human demands. That is not a solution. It is destruction.
January 29, 2010 05:10:23 (GMT Time)


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Comments:OMG!!!!! Seriously? Anti-gravity? Study a little science, not science fiction and you'll understand how ridiculous that is.
January 29, 2010 00:32:23 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
Email:
HomePage:
Comments:This group also wants to pay the world’s deep sea fishing fleets to stop all fishing for two or three years in order to allow the oceans to replenish themselves. A different group based in Australia but with powerful connections throughout the G7 proposes turning the deserts green by using etheric weather engineering technology. They also plan to start cleaning up the world’s most polluted sites using zeolite, an abundant mineral that absorbs toxic substances and prevents them from interacting with the environment in a harmful manner. They also have free energy technology. A third group based on the US military-intelligence establishment proposes a 5-year swords to plowshares transformation of the Pentagon. This group has the potential to develop the over 6,000 patents that have hitherto been suppressed for “national security” reasons. One technology they possess is anti-gravity. This would make automobiles obsolete and allow roadways to be transformed into gardens.
January 28, 2010 19:53:24 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
Email:
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Comments:There are now several groups with active plans for implementing a new paradigm to replace the one of endless war and genocide being pursued by the criminals who have taken over Western civilization. One group centered on the British empire would like to begin construction of massive free energy facilities to remove salt from sea-water and use the resulting fresh water to turn the deserts green. This group is allying itself with the Middle Eastern monarchies and plans to work simultaneously in Australia and the Arabian peninsula.
January 28, 2010 19:51:37 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Still here...for a while. Have been resisting the social network thing after all the rising and falling (friendster, myspace, etc.) and coming and going...how long will facebook last? and privacy issues concern me, and how much time did I waste getting rid of friend request from people just looking for high numbers?. Also there's a bit of "this is our thing" mentality involved...but I got the same way on the March after Chicago.
January 27, 2010 21:51:45 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:We're still HERE...kind of sort of...oh dear Facebook has taken our souls...
January 25, 2010 16:20:23 (GMT Time)


Name:Rasta Erich
Email:hungryisthetiger{at}yahoo.com
HomePage:http://www.meetup.com/atlantaportuguese
Comments:ACtually my name is Erich Coleman, but who would remmeber that. I have nothing of the march but memories. I walked from Youngstown OH to the end. Fantastic journey! I don´t expect to get in touch with anyone after all these years, But I do remember Anna from time to time. Happy Birthday Anna...lol. Erich
January 20, 2010 11:52:06 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Johnny the Pluntz! Wow, never knew I had anything to do with your decision. Glad you went for the ride anyway.
January 19, 2010 20:24:49 (GMT Time)


Name:John Pluntze
Email:writestuffidaho{at}gmail.com
HomePage:http://www.sunvalleyonline.com
Comments:Hi everyone!! John Pluntze (I co-managed our wonderful white bookmobile and did PR, too, on 1986's GPM) here in verrry snowy Ketchum-Sun Valley Idaho. Feeling kinda stupid & arrogant that I let THIS MUCH time pass before making any real concerted effort to re-establish ties with others on that genuinely amazing 10-month long GPM in 1986, but hey, better late than never, right? VERY anxious to reconnect with James Knight & Kim Voigt (who probably had AS MUCH to do with me ultimately joining and staying with the GPM as anyone!!), and also Sadna & Cynthia (STILL in Santa Barbara?) Sue Lipsky (on her boat?), Jim & Verna (also of the Bookmobile) & anyone else out there who remembers ME even if I cannot recall the names. Very happy here! Not married and no kids. Embarked on a 14-month long trip around the world in the 1995-96 (after working/living in the British Virgin Isles for a year) and then returned again to Ketchum 1996. -John Pluntze POB 5134 Ketchum, ID 83340-5134 (208) 7
January 19, 2010 14:37:00 (GMT Time)


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Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Well the site is back up -- did anyone notice it down? R.I.P. Peace March Page. I HATE *&*#@$%# Facebook.
January 19, 2010 00:42:46 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Don, It is at http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=19248698462&ref=ts You can friend me too. Barbara Milazzo (was Cone) FRANK, my dear, take care of yourself. Matthew says that if you want to get on Facebook, ask Crystal, she'll know.
January 13, 2010 15:02:20 (GMT Time)


Name:Tall Bicycle Frank
Email:lalatobuffandback{at}lax.zap
HomePage:http://
Comments:We Sahlems do not know from Facebook, but I guess it is ready for us. We had a wonderful family Christmas in Williamsville NY--ten at the table, for the first time in many years. Cyrstal got her first dayslong snow experience. Even the flying went very well, thanks to Southwest and clear weather. Then last Thursday I needed an prompt operation to fix my right retina. I will need a week plus at home to recover; I am up to about an eye and a quarter at this point. It has all been painless enough, thanks to Kaiser. Kaiser and Southwest are much alike. Everyone is very competent, in part because they are very busy. But everyone is very relaxed and friendly and egalitarian. We feel very comfortable with them.
January 13, 2010 03:03:21 (GMT Time)


Name:Don Preister
Email:donaldpg{at}msn.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:I just got on Facebook. Now how do I find the March page?
January 11, 2010 22:36:02 (GMT Time)


Name:Don Preister
Email:donaldpg{at}msn.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:I just got on Facebook. Now how do I find the March page?
January 11, 2010 22:33:26 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:I think many of us, and more, are communicating in Facebook now. This site has gone so quiet. If you haven't created a facebook page yet... you really should.
January 11, 2010 06:58:42 (GMT Time)


Name:frank
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments: Happy 2010 to all the Peace marchers.
January 1, 2010 06:21:44 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Happy Birthday Joe!!!!
January 1, 2010 01:44:40 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:CRAP!!!...Joe, was filing year end stuff and found the letter($) I was supposed to send you in Sept. under a bunch of "bills, paid" stuff. Sorry, will drop it in the mail tonite.
December 31, 2009 00:14:15 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9fitr_mountain-top-removal-what-do-you-st_travel?from=rss
Comments:The above sends you to a mountain top removal piece with poetry by Sarah Seeds.
December 26, 2009 00:29:36 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:peace{at}last
HomePage:http://
Comments:Fellow Marchers, please send big love to our dearest Jack Mento, surfer Jack, Kaimana as he just lost his Mother... Jack was with her when she died. Blessings to all and peace in this Holiday Season.
December 14, 2009 16:43:30 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Hey James, this truthdig site is great! I've been enjoying their Financial Meltdown 101 this weekend. Thanks!
December 6, 2009 10:17:02 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/peace_removement_20091129/
Comments:See above cartoon.
December 2, 2009 16:22:03 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
HomePage:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/an-open-letter-to-preside_b_373457.html
Comments:Yes James, this is very very very disappointing!
December 2, 2009 05:28:08 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:How many more atrocities does Obama have to commit before I can stop "giving him a chance" and state my opinion openly without the terrified "shush" of democrats. Afghanistan, the land mine treaty, pesticide execs in charge of agriculture. The great thing about Republicans is that they never disappoint me.
December 1, 2009 22:27:17 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Hey Ted, we don't have Thanksgiving here, but after reading Abe's words, I am thinking we are missing something. Not the eating turkey, but the spirit of it. Hope you had a wonderful one, my dear friend.
November 28, 2009 21:20:29 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
Email:
HomePage:
Comments:Thank you for Giving every one. Whatever you eat may it make you happy to eat.
November 26, 2009 22:29:48 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://www.classicallibrary.org/lincoln/thanksgiving.htm
Comments:Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Thought the above might be appropriate given the times we live in now...stay hopeful
November 26, 2009 19:59:38 (GMT Time)


Name:
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Cheese is mold
November 26, 2009 06:26:59 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Thank you Paulien, that was beautiful.
November 25, 2009 23:07:47 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:the desire for peace is alive and well and expressing itself beautifully: http://vimeo.com/4396617
November 24, 2009 22:11:21 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Nice article about GPMer Donna Love in the Santa Cruz Sentinel: http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_13797455
November 18, 2009 20:35:25 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Hey all you Peace Marchers out there, let's send our dear surf reporter, Jack Mento some huge waves of loves as he goes back home to be with his Mom who is in the last stages of this life. Big Aloha to you Jack and safe journey. Feel the strength from the many who love you. These are the delicate moments that make our life. May your Mother transition in peace.
November 18, 2009 20:09:06 (GMT Time)


Name:Ben Atherton-Zeman
Email:benazeman{at}hotmail.com
HomePage:http://www.voicesofmen.org
Comments:Happy November 15 to my Great Peace March Family! Remember walking into Washington, DC twenty-three years ago? I sure do - thank you all for changing my life!
November 15, 2009 11:00:14 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:LeAnn, my heart goes out to you....I wish you comfort in this time of sorrow.
November 9, 2009 02:54:27 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Dear fellow marchers, in case you hadn't heard, LeAnn posted that her mother passed away. Mary Louise Norcross died of ovarian cancer. Yet another Marcher marches on...:{
November 2, 2009 15:05:58 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
Email:
HomePage:
Comments:Thank you Ann, I could not be there. The hardest part of life and living is having to lose the people you care about and know.
October 29, 2009 01:38:55 (GMT Time)


Name:Ann Edelman
Email:annunicorn{at}aol.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:Hello, everyone. Gene and June just visited for a couple of days (it was great to see them!) and Gene helped me set this up on my favorite list. I am sure some of you know that I am a computer dope. Anyhow, I haven't had a chance to read everything, but wanted to write something about Coleen, and her very wonderful, very moving kick-ass memorial party. It was just like Coleen to leave that provision in her will. It was such a shock when she died, even though she had been so ill for so long. She was a terrific person, we loved her, and in spite of her illness, she never lost her humor and her intense interest in people, politics and life. :The party was a real tribute to her, and to all the people she was involved with in her life. There must have been over 200 people there, including lots of peace marchers, and many from the deaf comunity. We will miss her terribly.
October 28, 2009 18:40:05 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:tdthomas16{at}att.net
HomePage:http://
Comments:A bit more explanation to my last post from an earthquake news site -In an emergency long distance phone lines often begin working again sooner than local phone lines. This means that your out-of-state contact is a great way to see if your family is okay. If everyone calls and reports to the contact then they can call the people you want to keep informed of your situation. Make sure everyone in your family knows the number of the out-of-state contact. Don't count on your cell phone. The increased traffic on cell phone networks can quickly overload wireless capacity. But text messaging uses a different part of the cell phone network and it may be possibler to send and receive text messages even if phone lines are jammed. If possible avoid making non-urgent phone calls after a disaster because the increased trafrfic can jam phone circuits. Make sure you have phone in your house that does not require electricity
October 20, 2009 06:13:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:tdthomas16{at}att.net
HomePage:http://
Comments:Our Loma Prieta test just failed (surprisingly tech unsavvy friend). We need someone to act as our backup out-of-state contact post-earthquake. We do a test around April (1906) or Sept. (1989) as it occurs to us. ping me at the above to get our #'s (cell towers get jammed, but text messages wait for an opening).Thanks Sagans
October 19, 2009 03:40:31 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Thanks Barbara. So then how was the party for Coleen? How is the family?
October 9, 2009 11:52:17 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Mellow. Because the Kick Ass Memorial was on Saturday many of the "day trippers", like the Edelmans, went there insted. We didn't have our regular Saturday night "pot luck" and birthday cake because there was GREAT food at the memorial. Some regular folks, like CJ and the Sahlem family stayed in a hotel this year. We had a visit from Carlos and Mariana DeLaFuente for Friday night and Kathleen Taylor stayed Saturday. The Sahlems, CJ and Rachel, and Tracy Brown and her partner Lane visited a couple of time through the weekend. All told there were 25 people who either visited or stayed in camp.
October 8, 2009 14:40:41 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:So how was the reunion?
October 7, 2009 20:42:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
Email:
HomePage:
Comments:Hello all, I am writhing to ask you for help. I helped my Daughter go to NY city last week and drove her to the air port to send her off. She is now 21 and wanted to check out schools in the area as well as see how hard it wold be to get work. On Tuesday as she was walking she was attacked. She said she ran and got away but she feels very shaken over it. If you know anyone in NY that can help her in anyway deal with this please let me know. If I could I would lay her on a soft cloud of security. She knows I love her and she loves me also but she told me not to come there. She is very independent, strong and can't stand leaning or crying on anyone's shoulder not even dads but I know this shocked her. Seattle is very mellow compared to NYC. Please if you know anyone that could provide a secure place for to be while she is there for a month I would be grateful. email me at redhawkspirit@lycos.com my number is 510-717-8320
October 1, 2009 19:55:46 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:So how was the weekend and the party to honor Coleen? You have no idea how much I thought of you all and wished I could have joined you in paying respect.
September 30, 2009 12:35:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Tracey Brown
Email:MyOwn2Feet{at}aol.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:I am shocked and devastated by this news. I have canceled my plans for the weekend and will be at both the Reunion and the party to honor Coleen. I have not been able to come to the reunion for many years because it conflicts with the Folsom Street Fair but her passing changes priorities for me big time. I look forward to seeing you all Friday and Saturday. Namaste, Tracey (CA State Peace March, 1988)
September 23, 2009 23:23:01 (GMT Time)


Name:Jypsy Jim
Email:eco-ark{at}hotmail.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:The computer went down yesterday, delaying my search for a ride to the Cali reunion from the L.A. Area. Just in case something offers itself at the last minute, I can be reached at 714-826-5241 until mid Thursday. Hope to see many of you there.
September 23, 2009 18:50:33 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Reunion at Lake Casitas spaces G-20,G-21 and G-22 are reserved in my name Richard Sickler from Thursday until Sunday. This Campground does lock the front Gate at 10:00 pm so keep that in mind.
September 23, 2009 16:18:16 (GMT Time)


Name:
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:To prepare for Coleen's "Kick-Ass Memorial Party" on Saturday the 26th, please join us for a work party at her home on Thursday to clean and... organize the house and yard. Come anytime, stay any amount of time...some food and drinks available. 9:00AM Thursday, September 24th Location:Coleen's home
September 23, 2009 01:10:05 (GMT Time)


Name:evan austin
Email:evanjaustin{at}gmail.com
HomePage:http://www.kiva.org/team/gpm
Comments:Julia Gosztyla Ziobro says via Facebook: partly in honor of Coleen Ashly, and partly because I've been thinking about it for a while, I've created a Great Peace March community on Kiva.org (link above). Join the community and have your loans be counted! Unlike the GPM, we'll be able to see some of the ripples from our work. :-)
September 22, 2009 20:18:57 (GMT Time)


Name:evan austin
Email:evanjaustin{at}gmail.com
HomePage:http://www.ojaipeace.org
Comments:The Ojai Peace Coalition - of which i am the director and which Coleen has supported strongly since its creation in 2005 - awarded its third annual "Noble Peace Prize" to a local shero last night in Ojai. In Coleens declining health she has long been unable to participate in activism in the same ways that she used to, and so Jessie and i asked her to cast a vote for this years NPP honoree. she was thrilled to do this, and weighed the decision very carefully. this was one of her last acts of peace activism, and the person she voted for received the award. i will post a link to the video when it is available.
September 22, 2009 15:52:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:The California annual GPM Reunion is also this weekend at Lake Casitas. That is only a few miles from Coleen's house and the Kick Ass memorial party. Bring a tent and a sleeping bag. Join us in the "G-Grebe" campground. Coleen's timing is pretty amazing. What style.
September 22, 2009 14:07:52 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Coleen's Kick-Ass Memorial Party September 26, 2009 2:00 PM, Coleen's home, 111 N. Pueblo, Meiners Oaks, CA 93023. You knew Coleen; you know she loved to host and attend parties! Her Will specifies that a catered party be held at her home in her honor, with libations and "good, bad, and ugly" story-telling. Please join us for precisely that, and stay til whenever! It will be very helpful for food-and-drink planning if you would please RSVP to jaustinrn@gmail.com, 805-640-8478, or 714-328-8155. If you have physical items (photos, trinkets, notes, etc) that help describe Coleen's life, please bring them to help create a Memory Wall.
September 22, 2009 14:03:10 (GMT Time)


Name:Steven Klein
Email:See my web page for contact info
HomePage:http://stevenjklein.net/
Comments:I just read an email from Julia telling me the sad news. Years ago I told Coleen how much I appreciated her continued friendship after my change of politics seemed to divide me from many of my GPM friends. Of course, I didn't know how few years left she had, but I'm glad I told her when I had the chance. Let this serve as a reminder to us all to share with our friends how much we appreciate them. May G-d comfort us all on this occasion of our shared loss.
September 22, 2009 02:53:58 (GMT Time)


Name:Ashly & Austin families
Email:jaustinrn{at}gmail.com
HomePage:http://www.sympathytree.com/coleenashly1950
Comments:the family of Coleen Ashly regrets to inform you that Coleen passed away in her home on Sunday September 20, 2009. We invite you to please visit the memorial website linked here to post your own stories and photos to help memorialize her.
September 21, 2009 22:17:58 (GMT Time)


Name:Jypsy Jim
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Comments:Still seeking a ride from L.A. area to the Cali. Reunion. Anyone going up?
September 21, 2009 21:26:21 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Paulien, you have not burst my bubble but for now I am going to take a breather and reflect on our loss. It is always sad to lose someone.
September 21, 2009 20:54:44 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Oh no. No, no.
September 21, 2009 20:05:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments:It is true HOWEVER, the family wants time to make an official announcement. As I understand they would like some quiet patience. Let hold each other and stay still for a bit before we light up the internet too brightly. Thanks
September 21, 2009 19:56:40 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:This is incredible or terrible or... – how can this be??? Coleen was an institution on the Peace March; she was the center of all things GPM in So. CA. I just called Dick Edelman to see if he knows anything. He says yes, she’s been sick for a long time with emphysema. What a loss! Insupportable!
September 21, 2009 19:17:48 (GMT Time)


Name:Jypsy Jim
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Comments:Richard called to give me the news by phone last night. He was planning on visiting at her place for a few days before the Cali. reunion. If it is a rumour then it is a pretty powerful one. It is my impression that Dennis was his source for the information, but I could still be happily incorrect.
September 21, 2009 19:03:38 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
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Comments:I just read on Facebook that Coleen Ashly died on Sunday. Is this terrible news true or is it just a sick rumor. Can anyone verify...hopefully you can Coleen by posting that you are "still here!" If it is true my heart is so saddened by the loss of another fabulous peace lover.
September 21, 2009 17:58:21 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
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Comments:Well, living in a country where everyone has to have medical insurance, I looked for those long lines of people waiting for medical care, but sorry to burst your bubble Shawana, I did not see them. The social thing about our system is that everyone pays, the unemployed pay very little, but they still pay. Folks who earn more, pay more. As a result, every child in this country can go to the doctor when needed. Every adult as well. We see it as a right.
September 21, 2009 16:01:00 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I will not go so far as to say that those that are poor want to live that way, I believe that the poor should learn how to run a business, how to catch their dream and make it work for them, how to work towards their dreams. Make the poor plentiful through educating them. There are bums, procrastinators, hard workers and hard thinking workers. If the poor would stop procrastinating in their lives and use hard work combined with smart working they will (Notice I said, WILL, as in WILL power) have all they need and more. Then the poor will not have to think that they have to look outside themselves (Government) to get what they want, to take care of them, to take from other people so they can get what they need for doing nothing. They will discover themselves and realize that they have it within themselves to get anything they need and want. Now that is power, the power of the individual untethered by government, independent and free, that is the dream.
September 20, 2009 21:56:15 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:What is it about your thinking that feels that government is the answer to everything? Government of dependence only keeps people in bondage and subject to government dictates resulting in the poor always staying that way while dragging everyone down through taxes. Taxes are a never ending trough that only feeds, clothes and houses fat cat politicians and motivates them to become career politicians always thinking of other so called higher causes to take money out of your pocket to squander and keep them high on the hog.
September 20, 2009 21:55:00 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:The government is compassionate?????? Do you know that if government gets into the personal health care of the poor that they will deny many of them treatment because the government will have access to their personal health care records. Do you know the implications of that scenario? Think about it, now you may not smoke marijuana but your poor friends may and other people on drugs will all be scrutinized by the government and told if you don't get some kind of NA or AA you will not get treatment. If you don’t get a drug test you will not get treatment. All the poor will have to go through drug tests, just how compassionate is that? Say it is set up for 100% of the poor do you think it will be any different then what I described earlier? There will be suffering and neglect with government run health care too as people wait in long lines and go without. Socialist government is not the way to go period it has proven to be draconian in the past. It would be draconian here too.
September 20, 2009 21:53:44 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Shanawa, how unlike you! Obama was adopted by the CROW Nation, not the BLACKFOOT!...we happen to be bitter enemies. And I assume every tribe will make their own stickers...but then we could just forget that sad plea.
September 20, 2009 16:25:58 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:Michael Moore is the man! Our Grandparents for Peace chapter here showed his "Sicko" in our movie theater just last week as part of our push for "socialized" health care. And on our weekly vigils we hold up signs saying MEDICARE FOR ALL and such like... I can't wait to see his new movie in which he concludes that capitalism is evil!
September 20, 2009 15:25:20 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I feel that the Obama health plan falls far short of what we need in this country. That said, your words Shanawa indicate that you pay more attention to the right pundits than to the bill itself. Obama's plan does not intend to deal with anything near "100 percent" of the american public, just the minority that are uncovered, suffering and dying from neglect by the existing greed based system. America's health care system is ranked 37th in the world for a reason. Only the rich get decent health care here and only the rich come here from other countries for health care. I will trust a government program that includes compassionate provisions (no excluding persons with pre existing conditions) over a program that is based solely on greed and routinely condemns people to death for profit.
September 20, 2009 13:27:51 (GMT Time)


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Comments:. Being white and male should not be a reason for being judged guilty, it too becomes racism. One of the definitions of racism is its devaluation of an individual’s worth for being a member of a racial group. It’s ironic and hypocritical when those on the left commit the same wrong they decry by condemning “white middle aged men by virtue of their age and the color of their skin. What these people are against is politically based not racial. Ted, I do love what you said about the Blackfoot. Marc if we made a bumper sticker it would not work because it would have to name all the tribes and Native American Indian Nations. That would be one long bumper sticker. I know obama was adopted by the Blackfoot Nation but I would prefer that if there were a bumper sticker made it would be better to have it read Native American Indian Nations but we are all here now.
September 20, 2009 07:03:09 (GMT Time)


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Comments:We do have Muslim clergy that foment hate and would harm us but one of the main reasons that Repelicans lost so much was their war mongering, turning what was basically a crime into an excuse to invade oil reserves for those corporations who put their money in republican’s pockets, using mercenaries to protect politicians and justifying the ugly use of torture. People, not only on the left but the middle as well as quite a few on the right were sick of this and believed obama when he said change would come. Well we are still in Iraq and obama is sending more troops to Afghanistan. Where are all the left leaning war protesters now? A lot of these people you say are racist just did not expect obama’s left leaning ways of thinking government can take care of you and that government knows better. They don’t believe government should own Auto corporations, banks, finance Union thugs and reach down into our personal health care. Being white and male should not be a reason for being judged g
September 20, 2009 07:01:29 (GMT Time)


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Comments:James I listen to the Right and the left tripe to get a good laugh and define the middle road I am on by doing so. Joe, Ted, Marc, There is no doubt that some racism still exists, I have lived it and caught the brunt of it all my life, but I have also met wonderful and beautiful soul loving white people in my life who are right, left and in the middle politically. But Carter and Dowd are manufacturing the race card to validate their own prejudices against phyical conservatives and as a weapon to advance their left leaning policies. These two are doing damage to race relations when they use race to advance their political beliefs when no deep racial motives exist. If what you say is true how did obama get in office in the first place.
September 20, 2009 07:00:06 (GMT Time)


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Comments: When one looks at the history of Native American Indian health care it was promised by the Federal government that the Native American Indian people would be provided health care. The fact is it has been and is a shambles. If the U.S government can’t take care of 1% of the population how would it ever take care of 100%? Then you can ask any veteran of the U.S. Military what they have to go through to get medical care they would tell you it is like pulling teeth. With a record like this I and many others cannot see how obama’s plan will ever hold water and it will all come crashing down. Government can’t be trusted with my health care, it can’t even balance the budget or manage the deficit. There are laws out there that are written that say the police cannot have access to your health records do you really want government to have that access, I for one don’t. Government is the wrong road to take and will lead to disaster.
September 20, 2009 06:57:46 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Yes Europe and Canada have socialized medicine but look at the lines they have to wait in for minor treatment, look at the waiting of months, even years to get specialized treatment. People around the world come here to the U.S. for their treatment. People from Canada and Europe come here for treatment. A few weeks ago when I was at a Pow Wow at Day Break Star in Seattle I met a woman from France who said we have so much more freedom here when it comes to health care. She stated that in France, if she does not get her child the shots that the state dictates her child can be taken away from her and she could be charged for child neglect and abuse. She said the freedom here is that it is up to the parent to make the choice with no repercussion of being in jail and having a record because one don’t believe the shots that are given are good for you.
September 20, 2009 06:56:37 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Laura, it is true and I have to concede the point you make about obama’s mother being a U.S. citizen. It’s in Federal Court now so let’s see how it pans out. Nancy, I do not think that the claim of the “death Panel people” is far from the truth. I say this because government has never run anything efficiently, the exception being war. Those in government that are placed in charge of handing out the money are the ones that make the decisions, thus they are panels of political pundants who say who gets treated and who does not get treated based on the money they have to treat people with. The elderly and others who are traumatic accident victims will be judged by their quality of life vs. the ability of the state or government to pay for it. Thus bureaucrats make these decisions not doctors and loved ones. It all becomes rationed care.
September 20, 2009 06:54:39 (GMT Time)


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Comments:"If you're going to yell 'I want my country back!' it better be in Blackfoot!" GREAT LINE, Ted! That should be a bumper sticker or something. By the way, isn't it interesting how Jimmy Carter told the truth about racism, but he got slammed by all sides for it? The Obama people don't think it's politically advisable to acknowledge the part that racism plays in people's antipathy toward Obama. Maybe they're right.
September 20, 2009 00:31:16 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:The "birthers" and the rest of them are just the bottom of the barrel. While a majority of Americans are mostly sensible, reasonable, and concerned (mostly? often? sometimes? often enough? once in a blue moon?) and voted the man in....this election has exposed a truly hateful, scared, and racist slice of America (of course if you ask them, noone will say it's about race). that is amazingly vocal (but given way too much attention by the supposedly "liberal" media). Why are conspiracy nutjobs (and Ann Coulter) given equal time to profess the idiotic as though it merits serious consideration?. Just like Obama seeking bipartisanship rather than ramming the House/Senate/Presidency mandate we gave him down the Repugs throats (like BushCo would've), we tolerate intolerance in the name of getting along. If you're going to yell "I want my country back!" it better be in Blackfoot.
September 19, 2009 21:54:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:It is painfully obvious that the real issue is that the president is an African-American. Those who would claim that he has somehow been lying about his citizenship for almost 50 years would not be troubled by constitutional arguments nor would they care about the citizenship of his mother whom they would consider to be a race traitor anyway. This is all thinly disguised racism regardless of how much such people spew about the president being a racist or a liar or a socialist or a Muslim. It is all very reminiscent of the charges that Martin Luther King was a communist. It is all very reminiscent of those people who called us communists and dupes when we walked across the US for nuclear disarmament. At this point, I do not wish to engage directly with such hatred and willful ignorance. If people want to remain rooted in hatred and ignorance and fundamentalism of one sort or another, then for them the world really is flat and no amount of rational argument will make any difference.
September 19, 2009 21:16:57 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Thank you Laura. Yes, read the constitution and stop reading/watching Fox news propaganda.
September 19, 2009 16:20:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Laura M
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Comments:Hello, Friends, The US Constitution says that the president must be a "Natural born citizen." The term refers to anyone born within the US or its territories, OR anyone born of an American citizen. Since Obamas mom is an American citizen, her son, Barak, is, too, and constitutionally he would be a "natural born" American citizen whether she gave birth to him in Kenya, in Hawaii, or on the moon. Please, please, read the Constitution. It is so worth the time and effort to know our plan of government.
September 19, 2009 16:11:33 (GMT Time)


Name:nancy
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Comments:oops-it was me that said we do know the truth- the truth being the REAL birth certificate that he has already produced- i didnt mean to be anon- i cant believe the "birthers" and "death panel" people- do you think that they even believe the bs they are spouting? or do they just hate on obama so much that they'll say anything to try to besmirch him? and if its the latter, how much do you think race plays into it? i am truly baffled by it.
September 19, 2009 15:20:02 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:It is said obama was born in Kenya! I guess that this court will find out the truth. If it is true that Obama was not born in the U.S. then it will be seen as a violation of the U.S. Constitution. It seems that Obama has tried everything to get the case dismissed so I have the question in my mind, why he just don't show his birth certificate and get it done with before it had to go to court instead of trying to stop the federal court procedure? Is he trying to hide something or delay and defer it till he is out of office? You know me by now and my feeling toward all politicians. I have no great love or trust for obama ether weather he be black, white, brown, yellow of red. I would love to see him fall on his face and take all his government run socialist policies with him, I would be very happy about it. I would celebrate. That dose not mean I want the republicans back in office ether, It doesn't mean I am right wing, as I said I do not trust any of them, I know better.
September 19, 2009 06:17:46 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Time to take credit for you posts, folks. It feels like we've been hacked by Glenn Beck. If that's not a marcher I'd like to see it removed.
September 19, 2009 03:22:58 (GMT Time)


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Comments:ummm. we DO know the truth about where he was born
September 19, 2009 00:02:26 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The judge, who is a former U.S. Marine, repeated several times that this is a very serious case which must be resolved quickly so that the troops know that their Commander in Chief is eligible to hold that position and issue lawful orders to our military in this time of war. He basically said Obama must prove his eligibility to the court! He said Americans deserve to know the truth about their President!
September 18, 2009 23:26:04 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in Chief.Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama’s request for dismissal today, instead setting a hearing date for Oct. 5, since Obama’s attorneys had just filed the motion on Friday. He indicated there was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe that. I guess Obama would prefer a “kangaroo court” instead of a Federal court! Assuming Judge Carter denies Obama’s motion for dismissal, he will likely then order expedited discovery which will force Obama to release his birth certificate in a timely manner (if he has one).
September 18, 2009 23:25:40 (GMT Time)


Name:Jypsy Jim
Email:eco-ark{at}hotmail.com
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Comments:Plans changed and my ride fell through. Anyone going to the reunion from the L.A./O.C. area? I am coming from the border area (Cypress)
September 18, 2009 21:43:02 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Its about the only two things obama had done that is any good. getting the defence shield in Europe down and he is a good public speaker although the content is just as much garbage as any other politician. We are still in Iraq and he wants to send more troops into Afghanistan. I do love my home land and a lot of the people in it though. I can give a good guess as to who is our anonymous American hater poster is.
September 18, 2009 18:51:11 (GMT Time)


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Comments:hoo boy. An anonymous America hater on the peace website.
September 18, 2009 18:14:03 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Yes Paulien, he is smart, decent, hardworking. That's why so many Americans don't believe he is American, believe he is a communist, believe he is coming by force to take our guns away, believe he is a terrorist, believe his health plan is intended to kill the elderly. I am so tired of America and Americans.
September 17, 2009 12:10:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
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Comments:Almost spilled my coffee when I opened my newspaper this morning to read Obama wants to cancel the Missile Defence program here in Europe. Yes! Looks like you finally got a smart guy in the White House!
September 17, 2009 08:33:27 (GMT Time)


Name:Laura M
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Comments:Hey, Yall, Thanks to Chad Meyers, Clevelander-in-the-know, I can offer Punderson State Park in Cleveland as a great option for the 25th reunion site. They have cottages (26 cottages sleeping six people each), almost 200 tent sites, and a lodge, all located around a lake. Punderson State Park is located about 30 minutes from Hopkins International Airport, the main airport in Cleveland, and the site is about the same distance from downtown Cleveland. See what you think of this site for our reunion and post your feedback on the "25th Reunion - Coming Soon!" Discussion Board over on the Great Peace March FACEBOOK page. http://ohiodnr.com/parks/punderson/tabid/780/Default.aspx See the "Friends of Punderson State Park" website for photos of the campground: http://www.friendsofpunderson.com/ Laura
September 10, 2009 16:00:46 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:P.S. If you can't make it this year but, would like to help with The cost of this reunion or the next. Donations can be made thur Paypal send to. Maidubelden@aol.com. The last reunion will take place 2112 at the end of the Universe. No wait, the end of the World. End of the Universe. silly me.That's not for another 1,335,554,999 years.
September 10, 2009 01:53:03 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:Fifteen days until the 23rd annual California reunion of the GPM. Three camp sites at Lake Casitas have been reserved in my name for September 24th, 25th and 26th. They are in Grebe campgroud. G-20, G-21 and G-22. Yea, I know it makes me feel old to. I guess you are the only reason(s) I show up every year.
September 10, 2009 01:40:53 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Joe Kinczel POB 1754 Nederland CO 80466-1754
September 7, 2009 23:19:09 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:I've got an extra $20 sitting around, send me contact info
September 7, 2009 19:55:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:I just got the bill for this website. it is $42 for six months or $84 for the year. Is anyone willing to contribute money towards this bill?
September 7, 2009 15:49:05 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Yes I guess Obama did not want to deal with a controversy while he is trying to push his socialistic health care. Like all politicians he would throw his grandmother to the wolfs to get the things he wants.
September 6, 2009 21:08:11 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I'm very disappointed that President Obama let Van Jones resign. Or perhaps asked him to.
September 6, 2009 09:02:03 (GMT Time)


Name:carla c j jones
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Comments:hi family! missing the connection big-time right now.just lost my father, on aug,21st. my parents were married 50-years and i feel blessed to have had the both of them together all my life. the good,the bad & the ugly. made me the person i am today. are we camping this year? i am thankful for the joy in my heart, the love of my family & friends.me & the girls are fine. school is starting next week. rachel, is a senior & sarah, is a freshman this fall.i pray each of you and your families are well, safe, happy, at peace & loving life.god bless you and may He keep you until we meet again. c. j.
September 5, 2009 23:22:43 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments: Hey Barbara. Do you have a email list of marchers and can you send out a notice for the reunion? please and thank you.
September 5, 2009 17:41:25 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Thanks, Shanawa, yeah, I do believe he's right. Anyway, it's a much saner course than the one Obama's people seem to be charting. By the way, I've noticed that when I load the guestbook page lately, the background disappears and becomes all white. Anybody else experiencing this?
September 2, 2009 22:55:38 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Very Interesting Marc, Looks like a page out of the art of war. What he says In that article may be the best way to deal with the Afghan war.
September 2, 2009 15:13:02 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Sometimes you just have to agree with George Will.
September 1, 2009 10:33:51 (GMT Time)


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Comments:We are ok, Ted, thanks for asking. We smell the smoke some but that's all. I haven't even had too much trouble with my asthma - we are in a pretty urban area--the fires are on the outskirts. Be safe, James!! Hope to see some of you at the reunion!
September 1, 2009 01:20:02 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Why so many fires every year in California? Is it that there may be an arsonist doing this or a group of them? It seems very weird to me that so many fires happen every year. It can't be that natural to have that many fires all the time. I know fire is natures way of renewing itself but this is way too much. I feel for you James and all others that lose the beauty they knew when fire comes through. Please stay out of harms way every one.
August 31, 2009 18:50:51 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I've had a front row seat living in N. Altadena. I have a friend up in an evac area who hasn't left, been keeping in touch with him. Spent the last two days watching "my" mountains burn out the front window and watching the fires dip into my favorite hiking canyons. I'm anxious to get in there and see what's left.
August 31, 2009 14:24:13 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Hey SoCal, how are you all doing with those fires?...Lynn?.
August 31, 2009 00:52:16 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I see and understand what you mean Joe. I have always said I am not Left or Right. When it comes to corporate greed one must look at how it gets that way. Corporate greed walks hand and hand with Government and politicians. Nearly all the corporations you speak of find ways in politicians pockets to get the monopolies they enjoy. Every dishonest corporation gets laws passed by corrupted politicians and judges that get kick backs to introduce bills, or stuff bills with extra measures so laws are passed to help corporations maintain their monopolies and greed. Peabody comes to mind, when you have a government entity BLM and a governor along with other politicians in the Senate and House to get Laws passed to strip mine coal on Native American Indian Land. If people knew half of the corruption that goes on with government they could see that a government of defence would be the answer and go a long way to separating government from business to end the greed of corporate monopolies.
August 29, 2009 23:00:03 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Shanawa, I do share your distrust and alienation from most American politicians and much of the US government. I can appreciate why you would utterly dismiss the usefulness of our government other than for defense, though I do not go that far. I also share your admiration for individual economic freedom and have spent most of my days for the last twenty years doing business with folks from all over. I have no love for the socialism of the USSR having lived in it for years. And yet, I believe that US society has become dangerously unbalanced in its obsession with capital and capitalism to the detriment of the people, of us. Markets do not care about people and the large corporations are not places where one finds much compassion. There is something desperate and sad going on in the US and it emanates from the excesses of capitalism as well as the failures of government. I do not believe that capitalism or markets can solve every problem in society or provide the community that we need.
August 29, 2009 15:59:58 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Governments, politicians have never created anything good. It has always been the back yard inventor or the person that started from a stand and built their business up in the market place. Government and clergy has always hindered that advance. They take for the higher cause when there is no higher cause then the wright of the individual. When government takes, through taxes, more then a person has to stay in business the whole society suffers, jobs are lost less and less people get paid. This is what happened when the USSR taxed it's business people to the point that no one had the motivation or money to start a business, the result was a crumbled society, mass hunger and the governments demise. like it or not business and the market place has and will always be the place of ideas and creating values for society. Government should get out of the way and only be for defence till the day we don't need defence. Government as we know it today is obsolete and a drain on society.
August 28, 2009 04:29:54 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I believe that governments always and everywhere create winners in the market place. The question facing any government is which winners to create and at what cost to whom. I believe that it is a delusion to think that an unfettered market place has ever existed in any society with a functioning government and an even greater delusion to think that a modern society can function without government. So then for me it becomes a matter of what kind of government I want. I prefer one that places the interests of the majority of the common citizenry ahead of the interests of the clergy or the wealthy minority including the corporate, industrial and military elite. Ted Kennedy, though he came from the wealthiest minority, has been on the side of the common majority and spent his career trying to expand our rights. While this comes at an expense, he never wanted it to come at the expense of that common majority, but rather at the expense of his own class. He was very much like FDR in this way.
August 27, 2009 23:44:46 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The US dollar is going down, Inflation will eat every dollar you make. More then $10 trillion in government spending is triggering a massive devaluation that will be on top of us before we realise it is happening. The Federal bail out will total over 23 trillion dollars that would be around $70,000 per person. All brought to you by career Politicians like Teddie.
August 27, 2009 19:35:03 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Lori and I are thinking about Ted Kennedy this morning and grieving his death. We are also honoring his contributions to civil rights, peace and the many progressive causes he moved along. I also respect him for his failures and his willingness to confront those failures and take some responsibility for his actions.
August 27, 2009 13:52:12 (GMT Time)


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Comments:...it's getting scarce. I'm not sure about you, but I'm willing bet that Big Oil really isn't ready for us to start thinking about scarcity and repurposing. Given the latest EMP bomb worries, I have started to think about a low-tech future, so Peak Oil at least gets the discussion going
August 26, 2009 20:15:59 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Kind of encouraging in a mercenary sort of way? someone else who doesn't believe in Peak Oil?...are you one of those "pry my car from my cold dead fingers" types Marc?. 2 trillion or 10 trillion barrels, Peak was 5 years ago or 10 years away, whatever, and don't get me started on what we may find off whomever's coast. Given the ratio of energy derived from a gallon of oil as opposed to anything else, we all too easily squander it and have no concern about how our society will function sans oil (try that 7 generations thought problem). And it's not just about cars...go around your house and toss out all your plastics...a lot of your cosmetics, your garden chemicals, your clothes. Go to your fridge and toss out anything not grown within a days walk or bike ride away (cheap transport gets you apples in Dec.). And while I have carved a bowl from a piece of wood, I don't relish trying to fabricate even a 6 person setting. and unless our planet actually is a Tootsie Pop with a oily center...
August 26, 2009 20:05:42 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Goodbye Senator Kennedy. Thanks for all your good hard work.
August 26, 2009 06:04:40 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Drill baby drill? Here's someone else who doesn't believe in "peak oil." Kind of encouraging in a mercenary sort of way.
August 26, 2009 06:02:54 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Go to facebook and search the great peace march Joe. Lots and lots of great photos posted, including '86 ones of you and Lori. Rich, I'll post the info there tomorrow.
August 26, 2009 03:20:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments: September 24th, 25th and 26th. Lake Casitas. That's near Ojai Ca. They are in Grebe campgroud. G-20, G-21 and G-22
August 26, 2009 03:16:25 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Sorry, but we have a Facebook page? What is it?
August 26, 2009 02:51:38 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Rich, if you post all the details here again I'll check the FB page and see if its mentioned there.
August 26, 2009 01:38:01 (GMT Time)


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Comments:On a lighter note, is there any way to get the word out about the reunion at Lake Casitas? I think this is the last of the Ca. reunions for me. I do look forward to seeing some of you in 2011. Zion Park sounds good to me.
August 25, 2009 23:04:32 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Yep! we are still at war under good old Obama I guess he will pull a Nixon on us and use the war to get reelected by saying he will get us out of the war. That's if there is any more money left to pay to get them out after he has run up the deficit and taxed us to death. Politicians promises at their finest. Do I like him, he stinks like all other politicians.
August 25, 2009 21:11:58 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Oh, right, but James, I explained that all to you. What can I say other than, the more things change.....
August 25, 2009 21:04:30 (GMT Time)


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Comments:But Joe... you DID leave the country under Obama. And hey, "war is a necessity, not a choice". Who knew? All this time wasted on peace work... I wouldn't go back to Bush for anything but I do miss being able to turn to the lefty next to me and say "can you BELIEVE he said that ?!" and not get the "deer-in-headlights-must-not-criticize-democrat" blank stare back.
August 25, 2009 20:35:12 (GMT Time)


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Comments:So what do other think of Obama? He seems very Clintonlike to me in terms of his politics. That is not a compliment, but does not make me want to leave the country like Bush did.
August 25, 2009 20:18:38 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Guess not Gene. There's a democrat president, go back to sleep.
August 25, 2009 17:07:26 (GMT Time)


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Comments:is anybody going to pittsburgh for peace demonstration during th G 20 summit?
August 24, 2009 05:38:42 (GMT Time)


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Comments:hey, don't mellow our harsh...
August 23, 2009 08:05:12 (GMT Time)


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Comments:One thing that complicates my feelings in this is that many of the victims' family members, who have followed this case much closer than I have, believe the convicted man to be innocent or at least not directly involved in the planning and carrying out of the bombing. They believe that his conviction allowed the police to end an expensive and time consuming investigation and that the true villains have not been caught or punished. And for the record I'm with Nancy on this one. In any case, complicated feelings though I strive for the equanimity Joe describes.
August 23, 2009 00:20:01 (GMT Time)


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Comments:You're right Shanawa, none of us knows what happens at death or beyond, we have ideas and hopes but the reality of the moments are a mystery. I have been near Ground Zero at the NTS and been very peaceful....I've faced armed Wackenhuts and been calm as I've ever been...because I'm ready to die for something I believe in and facing someone (even if not directly) that ultimately would understand my actions (even if I had to educate them). But to face a sudden and violent death with little meaning, from a cowardly and viscous and unaware source, I don't think I would be able to accept that. And yes, I know that hoping to pick ones time and method of dying is approaching hubris. That said, whatever manisfestation Liz presents now, I hope she is okay with this.
August 21, 2009 20:24:22 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Barbara, I am sorry that I gave you the impression that I was trying to put you down or to inflate. That certainly was not my intention and I apologize for further hurting your feelings. I won't try to reiterate or to further explain my position, but my feelings about the matter really have not changed.
August 21, 2009 19:28:01 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I am not looking to fight. I just think your tone was a bit superior, as if those of us who feel upset are lower than your high road. I was close to Liz and therefore the pain is very personal.
August 21, 2009 18:39:45 (GMT Time)


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Comments:That Barbara is the nature of free choice and I too am fine with it. Once again, I am sorry for your pain over this issue and I know your huge heart and love you. It is not about a fight between you and me that is for sure.
August 21, 2009 13:49:26 (GMT Time)


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Comments:If yours is the high road Joe then I'll take the low road, and I am fine with that.
August 21, 2009 13:17:47 (GMT Time)


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Email:What if we had acted like this after 911?
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Comments:It is easy to say, but I want to try and take a high road in my life. It is hard to do, but I want to try and act from a place of highest good especially towards those who have hurt me. To be honest, I was moved to tears when I heard that the authorities had let the man go home to die. It is easy from far away, but I felt that this decision embodied nobility, bravery and compassion which stands in stark contrast to the savagery, cowardice and selfishness inherent in the crimes that the man committed. It is easy to ask, but I ask is it not best to forgive our enemies and extend love to them in response to their hatred? I assume that the man is really dying and that he is no longer a threat. Perhaps he is even remorseful? I did not know Liz, but I know the heart of the GPM and that heart is about reconciliation and peace. I am sorry for the pain that many of us are feeling over this man's release. It is easy removed in time, but I celebrate this release as an act befitting of the GPM.
August 21, 2009 12:34:37 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I don't know how we think after death or what we do neither dose anyone but a murderer should never go free in the life time he committed such a repulsive act.
August 21, 2009 06:21:21 (GMT Time)


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Comments:i guess i like to imagine that we become nothing but love when we leave our bodies, maybe it really wouldn't be such a stretch to forgive our killer? i am not articulating this the way i mean to.
August 21, 2009 02:43:34 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I wonder, that would have to be an awful lot of compassion to encompass the person who killed me
August 21, 2009 01:48:02 (GMT Time)


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Comments:i did not know liz well, but from what i have read about her, here, by those who loved her, i wonder if perhaps she would want him to be released. i get the impression she was a woman of tremendous compassion. either way, i am sorry for your suffering, barbara, and everyone else who love and miss her.
August 20, 2009 21:31:58 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Angry and sad...part of life in prisons' punishment is that you will die in prison, not free in your homeland. I too feel he received the mercy he denied others, and I doubt he'll understand or appreciate that.
August 20, 2009 21:28:44 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I don't know about any of the rest of you but I have been so upset all day about the release. I am sad and angry. I miss Liz. I didn't expect to be hit this hard. My stomach keeps turning and I feel stuck and powerless like the day it happened.
August 20, 2009 18:42:40 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Scotland to release convicted Lockerbie bomber. See above link for details.
August 20, 2009 15:13:33 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I just found Jeffrey Turnbull on facebook. He is still on Maui, where I saw him last. E-mail me if you want to link up. I will send him to this site too, if he likes.
August 18, 2009 23:11:54 (GMT Time)


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Comments:hey, don't mellow our harsh...
August 18, 2009 18:09:54 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Live, Laugh, Love
August 18, 2009 05:32:51 (GMT Time)


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Comments:James we were talking about the Bomb, in talking about the bomb one can not leave out the war. As far as your retort I never claimed to have power to invalidate your efforts to effect change in the world. I said that when you leave out facts in your story it is no different then those in power that leave out facts to guide peoples minds to think the way they want them too. That is no change. We are in a discussion and I have every right and will use all the power inside me to disagree with you when you tell that story the way you did. Being part of the GPM I am clearly for Global Nuclear Disarmament, I will go further to say I am against war altogether. War itself is a crime against humanity. No mater what the war is civilians always catch the brunt of it and Japan started that war with the U.S.
August 14, 2009 00:49:25 (GMT Time)


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Comments:My last post had nothing to do with Japan Shanawa. Try reading it.
August 13, 2009 23:38:35 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I am not hallucinating James I'm just not as left as you are, nor do I spin things left as you do. As I said before, far more civilians would have died in Japan if the U.S. would have invaded with conventional weapons. The blame is not the U.S. alone it must also be shared by the WWII government of Japan and there military dictatorship. A dictatorship that armed untrained civilian woman and children with pointed sticks and told them if the Americans invade they should attack them. Japans dictatorship would have thrown their entire population into the fray. A soldier and a marine expect to be killed in war but when a dictatorship forces it's civilian population to fight that is just as evil. This same Japanese government is indirectly responsible for the killing of Jews, Pols and all others in Europe simply because they were Allys of Nazi Germany. Name calling will get you no where with me James.
August 13, 2009 23:27:07 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Luckily Shanawa its not in your hallucinated power to invalidate my efforts or effect in this world.
August 13, 2009 18:47:54 (GMT Time)


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Comments:In you bereavement of the U.S. you leave out facts, it is no different then those in control who leave out facts to control. That means your attempt to change is no change.
August 11, 2009 21:45:55 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Going to war is different than targeting civilians, by the hundreds of thousands. Targeting civilians is an act of terrorism and a war crime. On the anniversary of my country's atrocities I choose to remember them for what they are, not excuse them or justify them because those dead civilians "were warned", as though they somehow deserved it. I observe Columbus day in the same way, as the beginning of the European genocide against native peoples. The fact that Stalin was "horrendous" or the Japanese "committed it own acts of horror" has no bearing on my duty as a citizen to recognize and try to change what my country did and does. Its our job to "berate the country we are living in", its the only country where I may effect change.
August 11, 2009 17:48:14 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I see that the conversation has changed a little from then to now. I said no nation is innocent. There are plenty of things wrong with this country of ours. Like giving 27 medals of honor to solders that murdered people at Wounded Knee. I feel those medals should be rescinded. There is no honor in them. Anonymous, If you are talking about the Codes of pre WWII, I would like to remind you that they decoded the diplomatic codes not the Japanese Navel code. In any case Japan was still a ally of Nazi Germany. Let me ask you, if the U.S. had not went to war how much of the world would have been under the control of Nazi Germany? Would you had rather them take over? Would the killing of Jews, Poles, Checks, and all others had be less if Japan had not been their ally and caused the U.S. to divert war materials away from stopping Hitler? I do agree about 9/11 there is something very ugly there. I can not stand that we went into Iraq. I would like to see all the facts to words written here.
August 11, 2009 07:34:14 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The U.S. had cracked Japan's codes long before the "suprise attack" on Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen so that FDR could save face and enter the U.S. into the war, as he had proclaimed for years that they wouldn't. The U.S. government is willing to sacrifice it's own citizens without their knowledge, as happened again on 911. NO airplane hit the Pentagon, nor WTC Building 7, which also imploded onto itself that day. The warmongers running the CIA may kill us all someday, and we have not the wisdom to see it coming...
August 11, 2009 04:51:37 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Let me add that in the story of Nisi Jypsy Jim related, Nisi stated and I'll use quotes "The Americans had flown over Nagasaki and dumped fliers from their plane saying that they would bomb our city and that we should evacuate." The United States also informed the Japanese government that they were going to bomb as well as told the population over the radio. The Japanese Government tortured and put in jail any one who was caught lessening to radio broadcast from the allies so the U.S. took the steps to inform the population of the upcoming bombings by dumping those flayers. how many nations would do that. War is ugly all around, From the firing of a bullet to the bomb and all in between. I am neither Left or Right but when I hear or read stories that leave out certain facts to berate the country they are living in I can not just read and say nothing.
August 9, 2009 22:41:12 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The United States demanded unconditional surrender. Japan was an ally of (((Nazi Germany))). Japan refused to be occupied or disband their Military political system. The United States had to insure it's people would not be attacked by the system that Japan wanted to retain, The same system that decided to attack Pearl Harbor and started the war. Japan not only wanted to retain Hirohito as emperor of Japan, they demanded that their current military code of Bushido political system stay intact. This system of Military government dominated their people. The United States simply could not accept such terms. We can also remember that no occupation of an enemy nation in history was as humane as the United State's occupation of Japan. Japanese people today, know freedom like never before in it's history. If you are word picking what I had written let me point out that I said no nation is innocent. War is the scourge. I look for the day war is no more.
August 8, 2009 05:21:34 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Shanawa, do you simply not believe that Japan offered surrender terms before Hiroshima? Because your last post seems to ignore that information.
August 7, 2009 20:51:22 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The facts remain the same Japan would have been invaded with or with out the bomb. What I am saying is the cost in lives (Not only American) would have been far greater using conventional weapons. In any case the U.S. and Japan were at war. Japan started the war after the U.S. cut off oil supplies to Japan for not pulling out of China and Killing every inhabitant of Nanking. In war one side has always continued to fight till the other was totally defeated. Yes I agree that the use of the bomb also sent a message to Stalin But then look how horrendous Stalin was. No country is perfect or innocent Japan committed it own acts of horror and crimes against humanity. War is war. It is no good for anyone, I look for the day there is no more war.
August 7, 2009 18:57:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Thanks Professor, for the hard facts and references! (I kind of suck at that)
August 7, 2009 17:34:48 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The article documents that “Japan was militarily defeated long before Hiroshima. It had been trying for months, if not for years, to surrender; and the US had consistently ignored these overtures.” Finally, it proclaims that the real target of those atomic bombs was not Japan, but the Soviet Union. “The dropping of the atomic bombs was not so much the last military act of the Second World War as the first act of the Cold War. The weapons were aimed straight to the red heart of the USSR.” General Leslie Groves, Director of the Manhattan Project, admitted so much in sworn testimony and in his diary as well. Please read this indispensable article.
August 7, 2009 16:53:22 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Important article by William Blum at link above. It points out that the bombings were “one of the two great crimes against humanity in the 20th Century, along with the Holocaust.” (Nagasaki Mayor Hitoshi Motoshima, 1995) The article states that “by 1945, Japan’s entire military and industrial machine was grinding to a halt as the resources needed to wage war were all but eradicated. The navy and air force had been destroyed ship by ship, plane by plane, with no possibility of replacement. When, in the spring of 1945, the island nation’s lifeline to oil was severed, the war was over except for the fighting. By June, Gen. Curtis LeMay, in charge of the air attacks, was complaining that after months of terrible firebombing, there was nothing left of Japanese cities for his bombers but ‘garbage can targets.’ By July, US planes could fly over Japan without resistance and bomb as much and as long as they pleased. Japan could no longer defend itself.”
August 7, 2009 16:51:02 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The Japanese made it known to Truman that they were willing to surrender on one condition: that Hirohito stay in power, for Japanese "honor". He refused and dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. Two days later he dropped the second bomb on Nagasaki. When the Japanese surrendered after that, Hirohito was allowed to stay in power. Absolutely nothing was accomplished by the bombings except the death of 200,000 innocent people. Oh, and the US got to test their new technology on humans and cities and establish itself as the only super-power in the world.
August 7, 2009 16:22:03 (GMT Time)


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Comments:"History is written by the victors." Who wrote that? The fact that the US dropped a second atomic bomb on Japan speaks volumes about the US desire "to save lives." Who wrote that? Regardless, the history that moves me is the history of Nisi as told by Jypsy Jim. Nine bows Jim.
August 7, 2009 12:34:06 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The numbers of dead on Iwo Jima and Okinawa show that the Japanese would have fought to the bitter end. Their leaders were as fanatical as any blood thirsty war lords. In the end let us be thankful that more blood shed and destruction had been avoided. Dose this excuse the use of such a ugly weapon as the atomic bomb? That will be debated throughout time. would conventional weapons have kept woman, children and other non combatants from being killed? Certainly not. I can only hope for the day when we get past the nuclear threshold and end war altogether.
August 7, 2009 09:31:06 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I agree to getting rid of all the Nuclear bombs. War is a scourge. Even without the bomb Japan would have been invaded. The cost in lives would have been far greater. With the use of air support, flame throwers, napalm, phosphorus, willy peat, Navel guns, artillery, and small arms it would have been a street to street, house to house blood bath. Truly a horrendous affair. Death and destruction would have extended from one side of their islands to the other.
August 7, 2009 09:30:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Jypsy Jim
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Comments:Burning my flesh as it tore me from my mothers arms. It was utter chaos, as I lay there burned, blinded and screaming. I could not find my mother, or see anybody. And it hurt so much. Eventually some people came to my aid, but there was not much they could do. I was never reunited with my mother and do not know what happened to her. I was taken to a hospital or triage center I suppose, as I could not see. But there was nothing that they could do for me. I was too badly burned. It seemed like an eternity, or at least 3 days before I succumed to the "Red Death". Slowly bleeding to death through the pores of my skin because my blood could not clot due to the radiation. And that whole time of my suffering, I hated the Americans with a passion and vigor that would seem shocking coming from a 6 year old girl. I was enraged. How could they ever think it was right to do this to me!---I was reborn a white American male. The epitome of the worst I could ever be.--- Submitted in memory of Nisi.
August 7, 2009 00:06:12 (GMT Time)


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Comments:We sought refuge at a temple up the mountainside, overlooking the city. I recall a large gathering area under the temple. Huge beams supported by thick columns held the pagoda roof over our heads. It was full of nervous people, packed close together. Many children were crying as their parents consoled them. It made me wonder if I should be crying too. My mother was holding me, and bouncing me just to head off an outburst of my own, as I gazed around the room at all the nervous people. The front entry way was was broad and we could see Nagasaki off in the distance down below. I do not know if it was raining, but it was overcast at the foot of the mountain. I could tell my mother was nervous too, which didn't help. Then it happened. I was looking at the people. But when the gasped in unison, I turned to see what they were looking at. I did not see much before the flash blinded me and I looked away. Tucking my face into my mothers shoulder. Then the blast hit me from behind.
August 6, 2009 23:43:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments:AMEN! Rev Frank. Thanks (not really) for the reminder. Actually it is 8/9 that is my unholyday. Perhaps not everyone believes in past lives, but when I was 17 the daughter of a Hiroshima survivor spoke to our church youth group. I was totally detached from my emotions after years of bullying and abuse by the public school system. But when this woman spoke, I burst into tears. So bad I had to go outside and get away from it. I am having trouble seeing right now, tears welling in my eyes as I remember it. At the time I could not understand why it was affecting me. I could not cry about anything then. But there I was, bawling my eyes out. At the same time a story and images were coming to me. I was seeing the experience of a 6 yr. old girl named Nisiki. The Americans had flown over Nagasaki and dumped flyers from their plane saying that they would bomb our city and that we should evacuate. It was just mommy and me. Daddy was off at the war. We were scared. Everybody was scared.
August 6, 2009 23:25:07 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Tomorrow is one of our unholydays, when the civilians of a noncombatant city in a defeated nation were massacred in a blinding flash of light by the United States. Recently an American arms official stated that there was no realistic likelihood of a world without nuclear weapons. Left unstated was the obvious fact that there is no realistic likelihood of a world surviving long WITH nuclear weapons either. We must destroy all of them before they destroy all of us. My hope is that the rapid increase in global communication will make our differences seem small enough that nukes will increasingly seem like the aberration that they are. Most people are building lives and raising families. Are we making the world a better place? Or is good something that can be converted or divided but not added? In any case, we have taken the dominance game as far as it goes. I still think we need a GPM every thirty years, until we destroy the weapons or they destroy us. Preaching to the choir again...
August 6, 2009 05:02:23 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Can you surf in the mountains? Watch out for the sharks
August 5, 2009 00:29:21 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Uh oh. Keep your eye on him when he comes down for surf camp.
August 4, 2009 20:10:26 (GMT Time)


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Comments:That must have been one of my other personalities.
August 4, 2009 19:06:47 (GMT Time)


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Comments:OK, Joe, I'm worried about you. How long have you been talking to yourself in the third person?
August 4, 2009 16:58:23 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Joe, All I want to know is where is the guest room!? I'm trying to arrange surf camp birthday in Costa Rica but would love to come see you and Lori in the mountains. Drink some of that fab coffee for me...do they have a Starbucks? Ha! Love to y'alls
August 4, 2009 16:38:20 (GMT Time)


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Comments:We have been here in Costa Rica six days and it is going well. Everything is a challenge and that is exactly what I wanted. Of course that is the downside as well - everything is a challenge. We are into our house; I have set up an office to do my work, and we are familiar enough with our immediate environs to take care of our basic needs. We have visited the kids' school where they start tomorrow. Right now Natasha is riding a horse for $1/hour offered by a campesino in the neighborhood. Alexander has a workout room with weights off the garage. Lori has run twice. I hope to visit the local Zen Center, Casa Zen de Costa Rica later today. Our landlords are wonderful people who have helped us immensely in our transition. Spanish is progressing muy bueno y rapido and the coffee is outstanding. Whew!
August 2, 2009 16:32:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Lynn, I hope that your recovery is full and complete. It sounds like you are surrounded by loving kindness in your family. I am filling myself with loving thoughts towards you and your recovery.
August 2, 2009 16:19:34 (GMT Time)


Name:Jypsy Jim
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Comments:I want to go Rich, hit me up on your way, or let me know and I will try to find another way. Hope you can make it Shanawa. Take care of yourselves Frank and Lynn. See you there. Can not check my breasts right now, I am too busy looking at them in the mirror. Hey! My eyes are up here! Balls must be flat. They do not bounce like they used to. Got a book preview in the link above.
August 2, 2009 01:57:15 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Thank you for your wellwishes, dear friends. Lynn and I are back from the redo on the ectomy. The good prognosis and the quiet confidence of the surgeon have made it all much easier. Kaiser medical coverage has taken the financial worry out completely. It was $5 for the co-pay and $8 for parking. And thank you Rich and Barbara and Dennis for organizing the CA reunion for this year. I got 9/25 off so we will be there mid-Fri. And yes, what strange things our languages are. We drive on a parkway and park on a driveway. And since the opposite of Pro is Con, the opposite of Progress is Congress. Lynn is getting lots of good treatment from her friend/employer, who just called from her vacation in Italia. Crystal got a music program for her computer for her birthday, and she is composing some interesting techo stuff and writing songs to rap over it. And I am six workdays from a five-week vacation; we also get a week plus for a white Christmas in Buffalo. Twenty years at a union job... luv2u
July 30, 2009 21:04:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:Happy birthday, Betty Thomas!
July 27, 2009 23:18:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:Greetings, peace and health to all! June and I will probably join you all for a day or two.
July 25, 2009 16:46:47 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:And guys check your breasts and your balls. That's no joke!
July 24, 2009 22:49:02 (GMT Time)


Name:Lynn S
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Comments:Thanks guys! Please remind the women that you love to have their mamograms! It's worth it!
July 24, 2009 05:45:47 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Barbara, I hope your foot surgery goes well, my good warm thoughts go out to you and your family. Lynn, I can't imagine what you and your family have had to go through, It is good that the lump was caught in time to keep from getting into you lymph glands, I hope that the doctors do the best they can in your upcoming surgery and bring your body healing. Joe, I hope you have a great time traveling to and in your destination. I am sure we will still hear from you on this page. Bryan, Sonia, Its good to hear that Xiomara is with us. Welcome the new peace child. I don't know if I will make the reunion. I need to be in the South West by the end of August or the beginning of September. I just got off the road for 17 months but we will see.
July 24, 2009 04:03:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments:oh jeez, Lynn, I hadn't read your whole post until I saw James's. I wish you health and a quick recovery from your surgery. I am glad they caught the cancer early. May you and Frank and Crystal all be held in safety and peace.
July 24, 2009 01:24:17 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Lynn glad you're ok and in good spirits.
July 23, 2009 23:39:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Bon voyage Joe and family!
July 23, 2009 03:14:01 (GMT Time)


Name:Lynn S
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Comments:1)yes 2)fellow infinity group member 3) We'll be there during the days but at a motel at night. For those of you who don't know I had a lumpectomy (breast) last week (during the Michael Jackson funeral!) and will probably be doing radiation about then, so no tents. I'm very lucky in that it was very small and caught very early before it has spread to the lymph nodes--stage 1. They didn't get the "clean margins" that they like so they will go back in in a week or so to take a little more tissue--fortunately my boobs are big enough I probably won't miss it! :-) Please don't anyone worry about me I'm fine, Frank is taking it all well and being there with me as much as he can. Crystal is doing everything she can to help me and trying to not be a typical teen brat as much as she can--hey cancer isn't all bad! Can't wait to see all of you I can in September! Women, don't forget those mamos!!!!
July 23, 2009 02:45:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:We are on our way this coming Sunday to live in Costa Rica for the next school year. Hence we will not make the reunion this year.
July 23, 2009 00:48:17 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:1. I read the post. 2. I am a flicker of life in a mortal body. 3. I won't be coming to the fall reunion. 4. Rich, I remember what the door mouse said, and I remember who asked. 5. Goodnight.
July 21, 2009 05:34:56 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:I have foot surgery a month before so I may not be up to the long drive and trying to tent camp if I am still on crutches. It will depend on how I feel that very week. In 23 years I have only missed 3 reunions. It would be strange to miss this one.
July 21, 2009 04:28:43 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:I'm going to see if I can cash in some frequent flyer miles to get there. Someone has to represent the East Cast!
July 20, 2009 21:55:32 (GMT Time)


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Comments:If I come out it will be a day trip on Saturday...
July 20, 2009 20:15:15 (GMT Time)


Name:Bryan, Sonia, & Xiomara
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Comments:We are seriously considering making the 1 day drive from Tucson to the reunion. More likely than not we will be there to show off our awesomely cute GPM love child.
July 20, 2009 02:42:28 (GMT Time)


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Comments:1)read it, 2)me, 3)I'm on the fence.
July 19, 2009 18:04:09 (GMT Time)


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Comments:1)read it 2) see above 3) I'll be in Vegas baby!!
July 18, 2009 22:26:07 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:Guestbook survey: Please comment on 1. Have you read this post? 2. Who are you? 3. Are you coming to the reunion? Thank you.
July 18, 2009 17:11:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Rich, I got your email. I replied re $ for reservations. I got an "undeliverable" error message. Please let me know via email how much you need from the reunion account. Barbara
July 11, 2009 21:57:04 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:Correction all three sites have been reserved for three days 9/24,9/25 and 9/26. So come on Thursday I dare you.
July 11, 2009 03:31:21 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:I'd like to go back to Breitenbush Hot Springs. First walk after GPM I did went there. If I see you at Casitas I'll tell you a anectdote about that.
July 11, 2009 03:21:59 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Above is the link to the web page map of Lake Casitas. These sites will have a great view of the lake and will also be close to the disc golf area. Dennis is a GREAT teacher of disc golf.
July 10, 2009 03:14:35 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Lake Casitas, I looked it up on Google maps it looks like a nice place. Thank you Rich, I don't know if I will make it there but I will try to fit it in. that part of Calif. is very far from Seattle. I may yet get it together to get a reunion going somewhere between us. I still like the idea of Ashland hot springs or Well Springs it sits in the middle and today with the price of gas it sounds appealing.
July 9, 2009 23:46:55 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:It is done. Three camp sites at Lake Casitas have been reserved in my name on my shakey credit for September 24th, 25th and 26th. They are in Grebe campgroud. G-21 is reserved for Thurday thru Saturday and G-20 and G-22 are reserved for Fiday and Saturday. Sorry about the date change and any other bummers. Also I hope to be in the area visiting many GPM'ers by 9/21. There is a Lake Casitas web site. O.K. I'm done someone want to take it from here. Thank you.
July 9, 2009 21:56:52 (GMT Time)


Name:Jypsy Jim
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Comments:But not too soon. Got back far enough to find Andre's last post. So the exploration was worth it. Send me Calif. reunion info. too, Barb. Hey Rich, sent an e-mail to your (former?) e-dress. Haven't heard back yet so contact me if you have a different e-mail now. Aloha All!
July 7, 2009 00:48:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Jypsy Jim
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Comments:Hey Marchers, I am back! Yup, Crawled out of the rainforest and back in So. Cal. No time to review a year of posts, but I will scan some recent posts and and form an @sshole (I mean opinion) about something soon. Aloha!
July 6, 2009 21:19:55 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Yeah, having an acoustically nice shop to myself the other day, I really got to practice my "They call the wind Mariah"
July 3, 2009 19:59:15 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:Ted, I hadn't heard about Harve until I saw your note. So now I'll always think of the two of you together .. one of those "Do you remember where you were when you heard Harve Presnell died?" things. (The Coen Brothers rule. I love "Fargo" and "No Country" almost as much as I love "Raising Arizona.")
July 3, 2009 17:18:14 (GMT Time)


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Comments:somehow the passing of Farrah and Michael made me sad and also made me feel old...strange week...
July 3, 2009 16:50:14 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Farrah, Michael, Karl Malden, Ed McMahon, Billy Mays, Harve Presnell, busy week for celeb deaths huh?...
July 3, 2009 01:22:13 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Sometimes when a mate is in the mood there is something to be said for romp and roll tongue licking pick her up and lay her down fun. The sound of sacred sounds a bit boring but it dose have its place if you are talking about gentle sex. Some like to be controls in bed some like to control, some like both ways. That said sacred may be defined in many ways. Spicing it up goes a long way. We are spirit in flesh, as long as we keep our thoughts and feelings good there can be nothing wrong with our love making as long as both or all participants are willing to go there. It is us humans that make it ugly or good, mean or nice, loving or non loving. Then there is a whole other level like S&M which I myself do not go for but many people like. Marc and Ted both make good points. I in no way am a expert at figuring all this out but these are my thoughts and It has become quit an interesting conversation.
June 28, 2009 05:27:22 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Okay, maybe your parents weren't avid cursers....
June 28, 2009 04:53:29 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Tantric practitioners who use terms like "good" sex are like believers and their "missionary" sex, trying to say what is proper or improper expressions of our sexuality. Yet we've all (I hope) have had great sex that was slightly (or very) transgressive to whatever we were taught was proper. And why worry about that "spiritual" sex anyway, that involved, focused tantric sex is nice at times, but that "quick, let's knock one out before we go to work" stuff works too, and can be just as reaffirming. I've thought about what our curses mean, and have come up with the idea that they mean.....nothing, they are merely what we learn from others around us to say to express an emotion, same as "thank you" and "excuse me"...specifics vary by who we are cursing, cultures only come into play when you are trying to hurt someone personally, like yelling "Apu!" at a cabbie who cuts you off, or "bitch" at a woman. BTW while my mom, like all parents, was an avid curser, yet scolded me for it.
June 28, 2009 01:52:49 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Shanawa, I think you make an interesting point. On the one hand, it is true that organized religion has been responsible for inculcating much unnecessary (perhaps "toxic" is the right word) guilt about sex. Some say religion has done this to control people. Maybe so. If you can control how a person feels about their sexuality, what can't you control? But . . . going out on a limb here . . . is there a dark side to sex too, that historically NEEDED to be controlled? I'm not just talking about rape, though of course that is horrendous. But sexual carelessness of all kinds too. Sex is such an enormously powerful, complicated energy in our lives. I interviewed a long-time tantra practitioner last year who totally believes that good sex should always be a "sacred" connective act. Her definition of sacred is too complex to go into here, but she definitely said "should" and "always," though she did not ascribe guilt or impurity to "non-sacred" sex.
June 27, 2009 19:55:07 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I think you have it Ted T. So, have we been suppressed to the point of being obsessed? Or are we obsessed because we have been suppressed? It is a fact that through the ages religion has made the rules concerning Sex. They are seen in words we use such as; Your dirty, your nasty, the devil is in you, you are a sinner, Your mind is in the gutter, all these words contain not only threat but dement the love of making Love and having fun in sex. Religions have inflected the population with guilt and fear. The cuss words are a indication of that guilt and fear. They may be a way of striking out at the oppression. We may be in the beginning of freeing ourselves of it.
June 27, 2009 04:41:29 (GMT Time)


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Comments:In the Russian language swear words tend to center around mothers or female genitalia or prostitutes or when truly upset then all three combined. of course it speaks volumes about the offensive attitude towards women that holds sway in the culture and generally amongst Russian men. Those of you who participated in the IPW walks already know this to be true.
June 26, 2009 12:43:06 (GMT Time)


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Comments:yes Ted, in Dutch it is only 3 syllables. It's interesting Mark, people swear with the word chalice - the cup holding the wine symbolic of the blood of Christ. Also go fry an egg, same intonation as go fuck yourself. In Dutch we say cancer, thyphoid, consumption in exactly the way you would say fuck, piss, shit. What DOES that say about those different cultures? Good question.
June 25, 2009 15:14:06 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Tuberculosis?, really?, that's 5 syllables! at most motherfucker or sonofabitch have four, most are two or one. Curses are normally "spat" at one, TB really doesn't roll of the tongue...or is the Dutch shorter?. And are our curse words really what we're obsessed with or what we suppress and can only utter in extremis...and how long will this thread last?
June 25, 2009 06:55:16 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Breathe my sneeze, you flu bug hotel!
June 25, 2009 04:15:48 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Maybe they say things like, "you are a damn leper".
June 25, 2009 03:14:58 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Your are all just fruity and nuts.
June 24, 2009 08:38:07 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Paulien, I'm not sure what it tells us, but I'd be interested in your analysis. If we swear with sex words does that mean we're more obsessed with sex than cultures that swear with, say, food words? And does it mean we value sex more, or have more ambivalence about it, or what? Which cultures use food words as swear words? Do they say things like "Eat liver!" or "Lick moldy peaches, you rancid beefsteak!" I think telling someone to get TB, as an expression of contempt, makes a certain logical sense . . . but I'd still be interested to hear more about it, and what you perceive it signifies about your culture. Are there certain diseases people use as curses and others that they don't? Do they say, "Get herpes" for example? Or would that be a sort of combination of cultures?
June 24, 2009 07:33:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Paulien
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Comments:Well folks, those expressions are definitely cultural, your culture happens to swear with sex words, other cultures will swear with food words, yet others swear using religious objects, my own culture swears with words for diseases. We don't say: get fucked, we say get tuberculoses! Tells a lot about what all those different cultures are preoccupied with, doesn't it?
June 23, 2009 20:33:55 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:Yes, Shanawa! Another reunion in Ashland, Oregon - at Jackson Hot Springs, or Well Springs as it is also known. I'll help to organize that one - not on site (though we will be there in August, staying in the teepee) but online.
June 19, 2009 15:28:13 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Rich, Funny you should ask. Check your email. I sent a message to you just yesterday.
June 19, 2009 06:04:36 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Speaking of reunions, I am at the at Well Springs, the place where we had the reunion. I am finely on the west coast again I have not been home since the Longest Walk started. I'm still not home but I had to melt the tension of the road in the hot spring. The place is so convenient. Jerry the owner really put a lot of work into the place. This place is so nice we should do the reunion here again.
June 19, 2009 04:37:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:Hey Barbara, how's it going, how's the family? Cool. Do you know if the next reunion is going to be in Sept. or Oct.? Yes. Yes i did assume you were going to handle the arrangements. I hope that does'nt make me an ass or a pain in the ass. heh heh.
June 19, 2009 01:01:20 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Ya Marc, a definate pain in the ass.
June 18, 2009 15:42:08 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:As the old joke punchline goes...Suck! Martha! Suck!...Blow is an expression"
June 17, 2009 22:32:43 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:That said, Ahamadinejad is a fucking hemorrhoid. (Now that's painful, isn't it?)
June 17, 2009 20:26:23 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Excellent questions, Shanawa. When we say "I feel fucked" it should mean we feel good, right? But no. I have no idea how or why our common language evolved that way. Big mystery to me.
June 17, 2009 20:25:44 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:What I don't understand is how we describe things that we don't like or that we feel are bad with terms and names that describe what we love or love done to us. Like we call someone a dick when we love our own dicks or the ones we are making love to love them. Or we call someone a pussy when someone is being a coward but we love being inside one. We love to suck and be sucked but we say that someone sucks when we don't like what they do, say or the way they do things. We say things are fucked when things go wrong but we love to fuck. We say someone blows when we don't like what they do or say but we love to be blown. I don't mean to be vulgar here or disrespectful and forgive me for being so crude but since we are on the subject I thought I would bring this phenomenon up. I could go on and on with more examples but you get the meaning of what I am saying here.
June 17, 2009 06:15:38 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Why is blow good and suck bad?
June 17, 2009 03:11:27 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Thank you, Ahamdinejad, for bringing us all together.
June 16, 2009 23:33:56 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Ahmaddinejad blows, suck is a good thing.
June 16, 2009 22:51:50 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Ahmadinejad does suck.
June 16, 2009 17:16:44 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I reflect on that fact often, Joe, and I often talk about it with friends. I don't think Iran would have suffered the reign of the ayatollahs had we not installed the Shah first. Someone else who has apparently reflected on it is President Obama, who explicitly referred to it in his recent speech in Cairo. That said, Ahmadinejad still sucks.
June 15, 2009 08:16:52 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Before we criticize Iran's current electoral process or it's current elected government, perhaps it would be worth reflecting on the historical fact that the CIA overthrew the last, non-theocratic, freely-elected government of Iran in 1954 only to replace it with the Shah. This was done to preserve Iranian oil concessions to western nations including Britain.
June 14, 2009 21:21:41 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Gotta say, if a bunch of websites did get shut down, and a rival candidate arrested for "some" reason.....as long as they put on a "Dancing with the Stars/American Idol/Housewives" marathon, how many people would actually march out into the streets to do anything? how many would know what to do?. I've often said that a lot of nonviolence is a rearguard action, only being prepared for after an incident. Where were the NV trainers ten years ago, before (insert current conflict here)?. There was the resistance to the Shah, but outside of that, I have a hard time thinking of something recent. Even the right-wing crackpots never really talk about where they would gather with their guns. Here in S.F. of course the streets would be clogged with people organizing but what about where you live?...would it be just you? do you have the resources? do you organize a general strike or flip around looking for Stewart or Colbert?. My house is more of a live on our stockpile and wait it out crowd.
June 13, 2009 23:47:28 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I'm not as clear about '04, Nancy, but maybe you're right. I've heard Marc Crispin Miller talk about it, and he was very convincing about the 2004 election having been stolen in Ohio. Regarding Iran, right now, the Huffington Post and NY Times are reporting that opposition candidate Mousavi may be under house arrest. From the NY Times: "Mr. Moussavi, who disappeared from view amid rumors that he was under house arrest or worse, sent word that there would be no turning back, but he did not say how he or his followers should challenge the outcome. The text-messaging that is the nervous system of the opposition was shut down, along with universities, Web sites and newspapers the government regarded as hostile." What a sad mess. At least we didn't have to worry about Gore or Kerry being arrested in 2000 and 2004. Or about our Web site being shut down by the government. But I take your point about brazenness and corruption in our own system and won't dispute it.
June 13, 2009 19:57:22 (GMT Time)


Name:nancy
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Comments:i dont know marc, i though the 2000 + 2004 thefts were pretty damn brazen
June 13, 2009 14:45:43 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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HomePage:a little flag waving
Comments:Grateful that I live in a country where, even if there is some election fraud, and close national elections such as the ones in 2000 and 1960 can be stolen, at least elections are not stolen as utterly and brazenly as they are in Zimbabawe and Iran. Bummed about Ahmadinejad's "victory."
June 13, 2009 05:02:29 (GMT Time)


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Comments:My friend Jason Has Lamas and His little girl has a dolly lama
June 8, 2009 21:16:14 (GMT Time)


Name:Laura M
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Comments:"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix
June 8, 2009 16:51:03 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Yeah, it does....and so would me having read the article first and not going to wikipedia instead or relying on Marc's description "chosen by the Dalai Lama to be the NEXT Dalai Lama"
June 5, 2009 03:13:14 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Ted, Osel is a Lama, and a Guru, not the DALAI Lama, which is the top Lama. Any Lama is found only after the person dies and "reincarnates". Hope that helps.
June 4, 2009 05:44:37 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Buddha Hendrix and Jimi Buddha, you might have it right Rich.
June 4, 2009 05:02:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Little confused (but then I only read the Wikipedia entry). But 1) if the Dalai Lama is so wise, why would he pick a kid who would reject the mantle 2) I thought the monks started the search for where the Dalai Lama's soul went after he died? sometimes consulting a lake, sometimes following the crematorial smoke, sometimes this can take 2-3 years (or more) 3) you can pick where your soul's going after you die? oohhh baby have I got some ideas. 4) and if I can't be Pope..........
June 4, 2009 01:15:14 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:Supposing reincarnation a real. It's possible Jimi Hendrix was buddha
June 3, 2009 22:17:16 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Sounds like Osel came to the light and found out how clergy robs ones life of what it has to offer. After all I would rather listen to Jimi Hendrix than then lessen to Buddha. any day. I an glad he found his freedom and has cut the binds that religion had put on him. Any one who sacrifices the life they are in to become better in a life that they don't even know exists is a fool. My congratulations goes out to him and his baggy pants, long hair and love of being with a woman.
June 3, 2009 21:56:29 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:Moving to Costa Rica is change indeed! As for the prostate problem, I've had an enlarged one for what seems like all my life - with elevated PSA levels too! Johns Hopkins Health Alerts online are very helpful.
June 3, 2009 15:29:52 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Another example of change coming from within not to mention free will in this lifetime.
June 2, 2009 19:44:58 (GMT Time)


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HomePage:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/31/dalai-lama-osel-hita-torres
Comments:Speaking of Buddhist monks and ripoffs, check it out: The boy who, as a toddler, was designated by the Dalai Lama to be the NEXT Dalai Lama, is now a young man who wants to chuck it all and have a normal life instead. From the article: Instead of leading a monastic life, Osel Hita Torres now sports baggy trousers and long hair, and is more likely to quote Jimi Hendrix than Buddha. Yesterday he bemoaned the misery of a youth deprived of television, football and girls. . . . "They took me away from my family and stuck me in a medieval situation in which I suffered a great deal," said Torres, 24, describing how he was whisked from obscurity in Granada to a monastery in southern India. . . . In 1986, at 14 months, his parents [had taken] him to see the Dalai Lama in Dharamsala, India. The toddler was chosen out of nine other candidates and eventually "enthroned".
June 2, 2009 18:47:32 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:That Buddhist monk got ripped off. Thanks for the good wishes and the good humor.
June 1, 2009 12:18:53 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The Buddhist monk ordered a hot dog at the street cart. He said, "Make me one with everything." He paid with a $20. The vendor gave him nothing back. The Buddhist said, "Where is my change?" The vendor replied, "Change comes from within."
May 31, 2009 05:40:45 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Healing thoughts to you, Joe. If it comes to it, please check out the cryo program at the CU medical center in Denver. The latest technology holds lots of promise. It saved the life and function of my father.
May 31, 2009 05:38:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Gandhi would suggest your tire "be the change it desires"
May 30, 2009 23:34:21 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I have change in my pocket. I hope for the best for you Joe.
May 30, 2009 17:14:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:Joe, sending you healing thoughts and best wishes. Hope you and the family have a magical time in CR.
May 29, 2009 20:34:34 (GMT Time)


Name:nancy
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Comments:joe- sending you healthy strong prostate wishes...i am envious of your move to cr-my husband and i honeymooned in cosata rica, and loved it. my family and i cant quite figure out how to leave the rat race, in part b/c we are so attached to the toys that come with being a rat. i think adopting a child is a wonderful thing. my sister has a soon to be 2 year old son from ethiopia, she recently sent me the book "there is no me without you" about a women who dedicated her life to caring for ethiopian aids orphans- it is a heartbreaking book. i am disappointed about gitmo, and torture photos, and upholding prop 8, and the fact that WE ARE STILL AT WAR(S), and somehow, at the same time, life is beautiful in so many ways-peace and amethysts to everyone- nancy
May 29, 2009 16:45:26 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Would one of you guys come over and change the tire on my car? The process at AAA is a bit slow.
May 29, 2009 12:22:03 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Change comes from within
May 29, 2009 04:54:46 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:Got any spare change?
May 29, 2009 04:30:18 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:That's funny, on the March it was process was the constant and change was the result.
May 29, 2009 01:00:11 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:A moment of transition has arrived. Alexander has finished his first year of high school and will be driving in a few days. Natasha has finished her last year of elementary school. Lori and I are done being able to produce our own children and are thinking about adopting a child. We are leaving for Costa Rica for the next school year on July 27. My doctor found a spot on my prostate and has scheduled a colonoscopy to determine the nature and danger of that spot to my health. It is springtime in the mountains with the aspen leaves sprouting, the flowers blooming, the rivers running and the sun shining. Change is the constant and process is the result.
May 28, 2009 16:31:32 (GMT Time)


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Comments:There is a GPM Facebook? (Not that I have ever done that. Why it seems like only yesterday I learned how to email.) The mini reunion in Zion was fun and beautiful! I still think the 25th might be great at Zion once everyone got there. (One hour drive from Vegas.) No bugs (I like bugs, just not attached to my body.) Great mornings and evenings. Biking opts from gnarley to nice. Lovely hikes. Rarely rains and a free shuttle that will take you anywhere inside the park as well as through town. Problems might be the hot days, (quickly solved by an air conditioned room or restaurant, a dip in the pool, water hole, or river) and an enforced curfew at 10. (But Angie and Logan have a lovely place not far from the park where they can build bonfires and stay up until...,, I would not know because I can not stay up that late.) I've been to Zion in March, April and May, and the weather can't be beat. June... gets a bit toasty. (But as a mentioned there are ways to cool ones self.)
May 24, 2009 00:49:48 (GMT Time)


Name:Andre Boutilier
Email:apsulute{at}yahoo.com
HomePage:http://uniped.org
Comments:Hi there. I'm back in L.A. you can search my name to add me on facebook. Hope all is well. Andre
May 23, 2009 10:51:01 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments:How did the reunion go at Zion? Is there a date for the next Ca. Reunion?
May 23, 2009 03:01:43 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:Thanks, Anonymous! But I guess I should apologize to Marc, not him to me. It seems I have blown him out of the water. I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to make Marc speechless – I didn’t know I could! Has anyone seen Marc like this before? Marc, please come back. You know you are one of my favorite people on the GPM. I fell in love with you in Barstow when you sang “Garbage.” And all the other times you sang: I have it all on tape. I still remember the chess games we played on the March – yes, making our moves while walking. (You always won.) I’ll never forget the time you visited me at Harbin Hot Springs, carrying armfuls of Shakespeare volumes for me. I have the fondest memories of you. But how is it that with all your Buddhist love and compassion you get so confrontational on this page? What you did with James was surprising – shocking! Well, we all have contradictions in our characters. Perhaps you should sign future posts as Dr. Jekyll or as Mr. Hyde.
May 22, 2009 21:27:00 (GMT Time)


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Comments:seems as tho the wordsmith is at a loss when it comes to apologies
May 21, 2009 12:49:11 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:Marc, when others communicate something significant and do it far better than I could hope to express it, I simply let them speak for me. And if ever you were to say something with which I could wholeheartedly agree (as if that will ever be!), I would be content to let you speak for me. But you don’t seem to understand that when I act as “the quotation guy” I am passing on to people the best of what is said on various subjects. I want our friends to see and read the specialists. Naturally, in passing along selected articles, I am associating myself with the opinions I choose: that’s how I feel too! I don’t really have an original opinion on the torture photos. And I’m sure as hell not the wordsmith you are. But I think you do know that I have, over the years, expressed myself IN MY OWN WORDS on subjects as diverse as atheism, communism, vegetarianism, peace, politics, chess, and Shakespeare. What else do you want of me?
May 15, 2009 05:24:06 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:I'm okay with a president who changes his mind. I change my mind too. According to the NY Times: "Mr. Obama on Wednesday reversed his earlier position on the photos after commanders and [Secretary of Defense] Gates himself warned that the images could set off a deadly backlash against American troops." I think that is good reason enough, but I also personally think there is something pornographic, in the most disturbing sense of the word, about photos of abuse and torture. I believe such images are a kind of psychic poison in our midst. Just the few that came out from Abu Ghraib have haunted our collective imagination for years, I believe. From a public mental health standpoint, I don't think it's good for the country (including children) to view such images. Nor do I think it's necessary. I think having released the memos is enough. We need to know what our government has done, and now we do know. By the way, Gene, do you have any words of your own, or are you just the quotation guy?
May 14, 2009 17:48:32 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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HomePage:http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/05/14
Comments:On Google News links to 1953 articles about Obama’s reversal. On AlterNet a good article entitled “Obama Makes a Terrible Mistake by Not Releasing Torture Photos.” Other articles all over the Internet: “Obama Trades Our Principles for Cheneyism,” “Obama Joins the Cover-Up.” Here’s a great one I like (link above): “For all of you defend-Obama-at-all-cost cheerleaders I have this question: if you actually want to argue that concealing these photographs is the right thing to do, then you must have been criticizing Obama when, two weeks ago, he announced that he would release them. Otherwise, it's pretty clear that you don't have any actual beliefs other than: ‘I support what Obama does because it's Obama who does it.’ So for those arguing today that concealing these photographs is the right thing to do: were you criticizing Obama two weeks ago for announcing he would release these photographs?”
May 14, 2009 16:19:01 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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HomePage:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124225891527617397.html
Comments:So the war is over! The war on drugs, that is. I think that should make some people on this page happy. BTW, on another subject, does anyone have an opinion regarding Obama's decision not to release the torture photos? I just want to say--I think it's a good decision, for all kinds of reasons.
May 14, 2009 08:51:20 (GMT Time)


Name:marc
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HomePage:http://worldchanging.com/
Comments:wonderful sustainability website
May 8, 2009 07:40:25 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Thanks Gene for all the Pete Seeger info. Truly wish I could have been there... On the "negative" column Hillary and Obama can both shove their apologies for the Afghan civilians murdered right up their hypocritical asses. Why do we continue to allow our politicians to pretend they don't know what war does? The only honest apology is to end the bloodshed. Sorry folks, I'm really angry.
May 6, 2009 17:14:09 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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HomePage:http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/05/06-2
Comments:Still another article on Common Dreams about Pete, this one by Amy Goodman. There were 18,000 people at his party!
May 6, 2009 15:30:06 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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HomePage:http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/05/04-5
Comments:Another important article on Common Dreams about Pete Seeger (link above). It lists the singers present at the big birthday party (more than 15,000 people) at Madison Square Garden: Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews, Emmylou Harris, Kris Kristofferson, Joan Baez, Tom Paxton, Richie Havens, Billy Bragg, Rufus Wainwright, Bela Fleck, Taj Mahal, Bruce Cockburn, Roger McGuinn, Bernice Reagon, Ben Harper, Steve Earle, Del McCoury, Ramblin’ Jack Elliott, Dar Williams, Kate and Anna McGarrigle, Tom Morello, Tony Trischka, Ani DiFranco, the Preservation Hall Jazz Band, and John Mellencamp.
May 4, 2009 16:55:15 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Dominic, Welcome back. I remember you and Marlys. It is good to know that our shared experience has been an inspiration to you. I have often wondered some things about the teenagers on the march. Assuming you went back to traditional school, was is hard to go back to a routine life and a classroom? Did you have any issues with school authority or did you get involved in leadership? What were your views/opinions about rules and boundaries? Did the rules irritate you any more than other teens around you?
May 4, 2009 05:08:58 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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HomePage:http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/05/03-0
Comments:Today (May 3rd) is Pete Seeger's 90th birthday! There will be a big bash at Madison Square Garden in New York with Bruce Springsteen and many others. There is a good article about Pete on Common Dreams (link above). I submitted a comment about the GPM as follows: "Never mentioned in all the tributes to Pete Seeger are two fantastic appearances totally unknown to most everyone but cherished forever by we few, we happy few. On the Great Peace March across the United States in 1986 Pete joined us twice: once in the mud of Red Rocks, Colorado where all through a rainy night - in a huge tent - he led us in song. Again in Lake Anita, Iowa where he magically appeared – singing with banjo - from behind the porta-pottie backdrop to our own production of “Twelfth Night.” Shakespeare and Seeger! Two of the greatest ever."
May 3, 2009 18:16:14 (GMT Time)


Name:Dominic Njoes (Marlys Njoes)
Email:balddom{at}yahoo.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:Its been a long time since the March. But it was the most inspiring experience of my life. Although I was young (fourteen), The people, places, and of course, the Marching changed my perspective of the world and all that thrive on it. P.S., Marlys is still alive a kicking!!!
May 3, 2009 17:11:21 (GMT Time)


Name:Tall Bicycle Frank
Email:ellaydayz{at}springtime.sun
HomePage:http://
Comments:and keep right on yacking. I too am a fan of Obama. And I consider GBush2 as something of a miracle, looking back. Even if we made all of our decisions based on a blind monkey throwing darts over his shoulder, the monkey would not be wrong about every single decision for eight solid years. GBush2 left a situation where Obama will be fighting a crisis a week. I am deeply thankful that we have a President--an elected President, what a concept!--who is so intelligent and shows such a grasp of the broad sweep of history and of the present moment. It is no accident that he is our leftmost President. (I almost wrote Persistent!) He was not elected because he is of African family, nor in spite of it, but because he is a smooth-talking debonair man and not a hotheaded blunderer. I still think McCain was starting to build momentum when the financial crisis, or bank robbery in reverse, took place. If that had broken six months later the Repugnicans might have stolen yet another. Then what? paix
May 3, 2009 04:15:32 (GMT Time)


Name:Tall Bicycle Frank
Email:ellaydayz{at}springtime.sun
HomePage:http://
Comments:A belated welcome to May. Here in Ellay, so many days are like May days in most of America. Cool cloudy nights and cool sunny breezy days. It might even rain, but it does not really want to. REALLY White people are an invasive species. We should all go back to Europe. Everyone can go back where they came from, in seniority order of course, and in 11,000 years the last people can cross back over the Bering Strait and give the whole continent back to Nature. Of couse, that oldest group treated the continent like a sacred place to be preserved and dwelt in forever, not like some groups like mine that grab what they can, shit a place over and move on. As always, some exceptions or moderates. My father had great regard for the first Americans, for their outlook on life and their understanding of the land. My wife had an uncle who was so well-regarded by the Yakama that they made him an elder and took him to their sacred sites. What to do? Give BIA, ICE and BLM to the first Americans? love2u
May 3, 2009 03:43:12 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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HomePage:http://ga1.org/campaign/HR265_support/bnnsgn4q76ti83w?
Comments:In the "good news" column, Obama just sent to congress a mandate to change the unfair (and racist) 100-1 sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine possession. You can encourage your representatives to get on board at the above link. This is legislation that could immediately help people.
April 29, 2009 21:18:29 (GMT Time)


Name:Rich Sickler
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Comments: First of all I want to say I love you Brother. What follow is just my mind attempting to function. It is said. Come on Shanawa. We alter the environment and the environment responds. It's the beauty of nature. It might make you sick but it is still natural. You can lessen the risk of course, but you can't eliminate it. I should probably study risk assesment it is fasinating. For every action there is a reaction. I find myself oscillating between optimism and pessimism. Optimistic that every thing is alright and always will be in the long run. pessimistic that things are going to get ugly in the near future. Who know maby will devolve and dogs will evolve. We will make great pets. The end. or is it?
April 29, 2009 01:10:22 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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HomePage:http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2515
Comments:Hello my dear friends. I know some of you have heard of a pandemic starting and that people in Mexico have been affected by it. Please look into the link I have provide above. Get some silver and Young Living Oils called Thieves. I am not doing to make any sales or spam you I am doing this out of concern and have sent it to everyone I care for. It is said that this is a man made influenza so take care of your loved ones and keep an Eye and ear out.
April 26, 2009 03:20:59 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:I read the same or a very similar article in The Denver Post today that was written by an AP reporter. My kids have showed me a cool phone application that will listen to the first few bars of a song and then tell you what it is.
April 24, 2009 23:18:35 (GMT Time)


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Comments:I don't believe you, Shanawa. I think you like to tell me so. Anyway, I still love him. More to be revealed on that story I guess. Still nothing about it in the New York Times. And I'm surprised I haven't received any emails about it from any civil rights groups. Maybe they're coming.
April 24, 2009 19:39:10 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Hate to tell you I told you so but too much hope has been put into this man.
April 24, 2009 18:33:22 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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HomePage:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/23/obama-legal-team-wants-de_n_190852.html
Comments:Disturbing article above but so far I can't find anything about this anywhere other Huffington Post.
April 24, 2009 07:17:28 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Does everyone on this page know about two amazing music web sites, pandora.com and imeem.com? On pandora, you can create music "stations" based on your favorite recording artists--even very obscure artists. Then Pandora plays you songs from that artist mixed in with songs from other artists that are somewhat similar. I discovered a couple of bands I really love from listening to Pandora. Then on imeem.com, you can actually type in the song you want to hear, or artist you want to hear, and imeem presents you with a list you can choose from, just like a jukebox! It plays you the selection you choose, and then it proceeds (if you let it), like Pandora, to play "similar" music. Or you can go back and ask for another selection! So whenever someone tells me of an artist I need to hear, I check them out on one or both of those web sites.
April 24, 2009 05:06:22 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:I have not listened to her, though I knew of her from Darryl. I am going to have to get some of her work.
April 23, 2009 20:47:35 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Joe, Eliza does that for me too. Her song Coast is my all time favorite break up song, I still cry every time I hear it. Marchers Schaefer and Tomas see her every time she comes to Santa Cruz and they always get a picture with her holding a sign that reads "We Love You Piper", Piper being my Santa Cruz name. I have a series of them.
April 23, 2009 18:53:49 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Thanks for trying, Joe. I think you're on MT, right? If so, you missed it by half an hour. I'm on 3 to 5 your time. Oh well! At least now you can still appreciate Radio Paradise because you won't have my show to compare it to, so you'll still think it's good.
April 23, 2009 05:14:12 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Marc, I just turned on your radio show after getting home with the kids. It is 5:30 here and it is not your show. How long is your show? Did I miss it?
April 22, 2009 23:31:25 (GMT Time)


Name:Cybele
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Comments:Happy Earth Day!
April 22, 2009 12:57:51 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:tomorrow at 2 p.m. PT, 5 P.M. ET; don't miss it!
HomePage:http://kows.fm
Comments:Erica and her husband Barry have been huge Radio Paradise fans for years. I've heard it occasionally at their optometry office in Sebastopol. Once in a while, if Barry's alone in the office doing paper work, and a particularly cool song comes on, he calls me up and--usually getting my message machine--he holds the phone up to the computer speakers. Most of the songs he does that with, I have on vinyl. Yeah, it's a fun station. But my show is better, you'll see. Thanks Joe. Love you too. And happy birthday by the way. Today's your birthday, isn't it? Or close to it, I think.
April 21, 2009 17:14:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Marc, I accept your invitation/challenge to listen to your show, but I do love Radio Paradise. Have you listened to it?
April 21, 2009 14:53:36 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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HomePage:http://kows.fm
Comments:Bah! Radio Paradise! Catch my Earth Day show tomorrow, 2 to 4 p.m. PT; 5 to 7 ET, at the above URL. Lots of songs you'll know, and some you won't. All on the Earth Day theme.
April 21, 2009 12:10:52 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:While I work I have been listening to an all-music internet radio station called Radio Paradise that I have really been enjoying. They play great music. Today they played a song written by World Party called 'Is it like today?' that was sung by Eliza Gilkyson. Her rendition made me weep. The last song that made me weep like this was a 10th century chant by Hildegard Von Bingen sung acapella by Anonymous 4. I wonder if it had anything to do with today being the 10th anniversary of the Columbine massacre. Some types of sadness and grief never go away.
April 21, 2009 01:34:08 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:tdthomas16{at}aol.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:Bureau of Livestock and Mining. I just got back (4:30 this morning) from the Western Shoshone Spring Gathering and this is an issue I've been connected to since 1992, when the BLM first started to attack the Dann sisters over their refusal to pay grazing fees on THEIR OWN LAND!. A lot of this is driven by mining companies that want access to the water and land rights, and wild horse advocates who are often fronts for slaughterhouses...saying that the wild horses must be "managed" which is code for rounded up, trucked away, and sold for meat. Meanwhile gold companies like Barrick and others destroy the land with cyanide contaminated leach pits and runoff (I've got a whole lot of pictures if a blungeoning is in order), and mountaintop removal practices, that make cattle and sheep pale in comparison. I've lived on the land in Nevada run by Shoshone ranchers and the land and their horses are fine...it's the mining companies and BLM selloffs that are the threat.
April 20, 2009 18:22:34 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:The grazing of sheep and cattle definately play a big part in the BLM policies regarding wild horses. The cattle and sheep are also more destructive. I would love it if all the grazing rights were revoked in order to preserve more habitat for the horses.
April 19, 2009 01:24:15 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:The BlM makes it's excuses and gives reasons to kill off these beautiful animals to sell grazing rights to ranchers so they make money. Cows do more damage to the environment then horses ever did. Giving grazing rights to ranchers brings on the need to kill off wolfs and cats so that the ranchers don't lose property and the BLM can make more money. This is not management it's greed and disgust.
April 18, 2009 15:54:28 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Wild Horses and borrows need no management, unless its to give park rangers and employees of the BLM employment. They have been here before the English speaking white man came to where they roam. What is it about this society that thinks that the wild has to be managed by humans? The wild dose fine with out intervention or excuses to intervene. The white man is an invasive species too, should we round all of them up and sell them to be slaughtered so people in third world countries can have something to eat? I have been following this since I was a child also and none of the arguments from pro controllers of nature hold water. The mustang was introduced to the north American continent in the 1500 long before these controllers were here to control anything. Stop rounding them up then we don't need to feed them bails of hay. Nature has served them well in the past. Eliminate vet bills and shoers by reintroducing wolfs and cats that eat the unhealthy horses. Let nature control nature.
April 18, 2009 15:40:03 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:Hi, Barbara -- Is there a date yet for this year's California reunion? I have some frequent flyer miles that will expire soon, so I was wondering if the timing would work. I could definitely use a Peace City fix. Coming from the East Cast would I fly into LA or is there someplace closer?
April 18, 2009 13:56:04 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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HomePage:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/science/earth/18endanger.html
Comments:Really hopeful news today about the EPA ruling!!! Can anyone argue at this moment that it makes little difference to have a Democrat in office? (I don't mean that sarcastically. I honestly feel gratitude, respect, and affection for my skeptical brothers Joe, James, Shanawa, and anyone else I may occasionally annoy with my starry-eyed moderate/mainstream liberal Obama-loving posts.) But oy, the Republicans are SUCH dipshits! From the Times article today: Senator Christopher S. Bond, Republican of Missouri, said the agency's regulation of heat-trapping gases would be expensive and cumbersome. "The Obama administration’s actions today," Mr. Bond said, "will do more to endanger families, farmers and workers with new energy taxes and lost jobs than it does to protect the environment." (Jeez, what a dickhead.)
April 18, 2009 06:52:34 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:thanks Bryan, that's an interesting point
April 18, 2009 05:08:36 (GMT Time)


Name:Bryan
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HomePage:http://morepeacecorps.org
Comments:In regards as how to influence other countries to promote democracy, I support sending more Peace Corps volunteers. There is a bill in congress now that proposes to double the Peace Corps budget, and it is gaining momentum.
April 17, 2009 19:49:12 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Here is an interesting site http://www.madeleinepickens.com/ Madeline Pickens, married to T.Boone Pickens, is trying to develop a massive wild horse sanctuary and resort. She is a bit extreme for me but she is really doing a lot for the horses. She has the money to do it.
April 17, 2009 14:56:36 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:The wild horses and burros do need "management" or they will overpopulate and destroy the environment in which they are now an invasive species. I have followed the situation since I was a kid. At the time I wrote my first letter of protest when the BLM used to rope them and put tires on the end of the ropes to slow them down during roundups. I still have the news article about that. The BLM has a big problem now. Their adoption program is based on a market of adoptees. With the economy the way it is fewer people are adopting horses and burros. Even people with domestically bred horses are resorting to killing them because they can't afford to feed them and there just isn't a market to sellthem. When a bale of hay is 15.00 - 20.00 and a horse eats one a week it gets expensive. Vets cost more, shoers cost more, Trailering anywhere is insane. Now if BLM used the horses to feed the growing hungry and homeless that would be a better then just slaughtering them.
April 17, 2009 14:45:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:One thing that I believe that the USA needs to do to promote democracy in other countries is to repair our own democracy and uphold our own constitution and laws, all of which are in a very sad and abused state. The rest of the world is quite aware of how far we have fallen from our ideals and how hypocritical we are in preaching democracy and rule of law to others while we do not practice it ourselves. As to engagement with other countries, we should engage on the people to people level in all spheres of activity and give up imperial military intervention. On the other subject, I love wild horses and burros and see them as a symbol of the US west that should be cherished.
April 17, 2009 13:18:18 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Also see www.movingcloud.com
April 17, 2009 04:50:13 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:This is a short film that both educates and moves audiences to take immediate action to save America's Wild Horses. A must see film for people of conscience. For more information please visit wildhorsepreservation.com. The American Wild Horse Preservation campaign is dedicated to preserving the American wild horse in viable free-roaming herds for generations to come.
April 17, 2009 04:48:20 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments: “WILD HORSE PRESERVATION” Last November, without a hearing or an opportunity for public review, Senator Conrad Burns from Montana slipped a rider into the 2005 federal Appropriations Bill. "The Burns Bill" essentially legislates the slaughter of wild horses and burros, America’s national treasures Congress deemed, "Living symbols of the historic and pioneer spirit of the West…who enrich the lives of the American people and that these horses and burros are fast disappearing from the American scene.” The “Burns Bill” was signed by President Bush and passed into law on December 8th, 2004. Enlightening the historical perspective offered by Viggo Mortensen, filmmaker James Kleinert provides stunning footage of these animals in the wild, followed by footage of the Bureau of Land Management rounding up wild horses as part of their current systematic removal policy.
April 17, 2009 04:47:05 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Distinguishing Taliban from Al Queda, Ted, the Taliban never directly bothered us and (as far as I know) they never tried to extend their dominion beyond Afghanistan's borders. What they did (apart from being wicked and terrifyingly violent to their own citizenry) was countenance the presence of Bin Laden and his camps. So then, is it that the "moderate" Talibee might cooperate now in helping us hunt down Al Queda? Or maybe they're open to some sort of unity government with Karzai's people? As I said earlier, I don't get it. I REALLY DON'T KNOW what our mission is in Afghanistan. As for influencing other countries to be less barbaric, I don't know the answer to that one either but I'm certain that force is not the way. Cultural exchange, maybe? Economic sanctions? Worldwide boycotts? Collective international browbeating? U.N. resolutions? (Hard to think out of the box, isn't it?)
April 17, 2009 03:19:33 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:So the question for me is, how do we positively affect countries with oppressive governments (Afghanistan for example, with or without the Taliban) without military intervention. Encouraging true democracies in which candidates can freely run against, for example, Afghanistan's "legal rape" law and women can freely vote for them, can move a country toward progress but at present all the US does to this end is bribe with aid on one hand and threaten with military on the other. I believe there must be other positive ways to organize around these issues but am unable to think far enough outside the box to come up with them.
April 16, 2009 22:09:47 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Marc, like moderate Nazis, the moderate Taliban (Talibi?, Talibee?) are the ones who would be happy mucking up their own people/country without the expansionist crap. They'd have their little Islamic Law countries and leave the Great Satan be. And does anyone else realize that whatever their beliefs, fundamentalist never are actually any fun?
April 16, 2009 21:31:23 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:I would guess that the concrete figures were not in yet at the time the NYT article was written. You're welcome, James, and thank you back for graciously accepting an overdue apology.
April 16, 2009 01:35:16 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Thanks Marc. My original opinion was based on editorials I heard on Pacifica and could just as easily have been erroneous. We all use proxies for our news and I tend to trust the lefty peaceniks (despite biases and bending facts) over the hidden biases of mainstream media. Maybe its because I believe they have our best interests in mind, or their biases are so naked that they are easier for me to sift. My frustration with the NYT article was that there was so much listing of increases and decreases, different sides saying the cuts were too much or too little, with no concrete comparative figures for us to decide for ourselves. Either it was bad reportage, the numbers were not really in yet, or the NYT had some reason to be giving traction to the Republican's "Obama is threatening the safety of America" rant, if only to sell more papers. ...And again, thanks.
April 16, 2009 01:10:52 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:I confess I don't really understand our mission in Afghanistan. And in discussing defense spending and American militarism today, I think Afghanistan may be the most salient topic. Are we there to hunt down Al Queda operatives? If so, wouldn't that be more like an "intelligence mission" rather than a full blown war? Must we also engage in nation building in order to do this? I read about a month ago that the Obama administration is now trying to engage with "moderate" elements of the Taliban. That's like talking to moderate Nazis. And speaking of moderates, Hamid Karzai, our man in Kabul, said a week or two ago that at first blush he saw no problem with the new Afghan law that makes it legal for a husband to rape his wife every four days or so. This is the head of the government we want to "stabilize"? As I've said before, I'm a fan of Obama. Largely, I trust his wisdom and judgment. But on this particular issue, I am confused. Does anybody have another angle on this?
April 16, 2009 01:07:41 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Multiple sources report the same figure: the DoD budget is indeed increasing $21 billion or so. So I concede the point; James was correct. James, I apologize for calling you a blowhard. Name calling is never a good idea, and I feel especially foolish since you were right and I was wrong. I wouldn't blame the NYT though; what I inferred was not actually stated in the article (as you correctly pointed out). Also, it wasn't just the Times that shaped my false impression. Senator Inhofe and others condemned the Obama defense budget for slashing weapons systems and contracts, saying it leaves us "defenseless" going into the future. What the new budget does is place more emphasis on counter-terrorism, intelligence gathering equipment, growing the number of those enlisted in the military, and increasing military benefits. I'm all for that last element; I think what soldiers have been paid up until now is a sin. They get lauded as heroes and paid like slaves. But about Afghanistan . . .
April 16, 2009 00:53:53 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:According to Voters for Peace at the below linked site "Obama's DoD budget is $534 billion, compared to Bush's $513 billion budget. On top of all this he is preparing to ask Congress for more war funding for Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan - an additional $75.5 billion for the remainder of 2009 is expected" but that doesn't really answer your question. I have yet to see an exhaustive break down of the proposed budget compared with past budgets and including proposed spending for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Voters for Peace certainly has an agenda (pesky peaceniks) but then so does the NYT: they just don't state it.
April 15, 2009 23:14:20 (GMT Time)


Name:Coleen Ashly
Email:coleenashly{at}sbcglobal.net
HomePage:http://
Comments:James, is Obama really raising the DoJ budget or did he just, honestly, include the full costs of the Iraq and Afghan wars? These are two items that Bush deleted from previous budgets in an attempt to hide the fiscal costs of the wars to our country.
April 15, 2009 22:29:01 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Koolaid?! Wow, I'm damned if I criticise the man and damned if I praise him. Ya can't please everybody and sometimes you can't please anybody. Thanks for knocking me out of the target spot except that now...
April 15, 2009 15:40:06 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:So I posted something to James last night on the friends page and this morning it is gone. Isn't that a bit odd? I also noticed that nobody had posted anything in five days. Is this James' way of having the last and final word? What is up with that?
April 15, 2009 14:38:54 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:James, did ya drink the koolaid or what!?
April 15, 2009 04:26:13 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://votersforpeace.us/press/index.php?itemid=1306
Comments:That said, go to the above page to tell Obama not to increase the DoD military budget $21 billion over Bush's budget as he has proposed. He may just listen!
April 10, 2009 17:16:22 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Ted, what up? In the many areas that I agree with Obama's stated goals, appointments and actions he has my complete support and as much time as he needs. I was ecstatic yesterday to see that the CIA was closing their secret torture centers. I'm supportive of Obama's stand on torture, closing guantanamo, his goals and appointments for the environment and to stop global warming. He' got a hard road ahead on some of those goals and I support him completely and I should have stated that clearly earlier in this conversation. BUT if his stated goals, appointments and actions (on the economy and military) are things I vehemently disagree with from the start, why wait to dissent? If anything, the fact that I think he is a courageous enough person to say "I was wrong, lets change course" (SO refreshing after "god told me to do it so my actions are infallible") makes me want to dissent early, loudly and often. BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK HE MAY LISTEN! WHAT A HOPEFUL CONCEPT!!!
April 10, 2009 17:09:05 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Why so pessimistic, Ted? I'm counting on 7 and 3/4 more years of President Obama. Joe, there is also the issue of advisors. Even a good president with the best of intentions can't have enough info at his fingertips to make well informed decisions about every single thing, and is therefore limited by the wisdom and vision, such as it may be, of his advisors. (I'm using the male pronoun, btw, because so far it's been only guys. Hillary may get her shot in 2016.)
April 10, 2009 06:26:48 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:tdthomas16{at}aol.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:Geez, we're how many days into this administration?. Give the man a chance!, at least try to believe before you start bagging on him, he's got 3 3/4 years left to go...
April 10, 2009 01:31:28 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:I am a supporter, but...........
HomePage:http://
Comments:The more that I think about it, the question of how the Obama administration is doing seems almost too complicated to answer. I am grappling with differentiating between his intentions and his actual policies and the entrenched corruption of the very system itself, such as the Wall Street lobby, the military/industrial lobby, the Israel lobby, etc., and of course The Republicans and The Democrats. These are vested political interests that are narrow and in many cases detrimental to the majority of the US population. In reality how much good can a good president do? How much power does a well-intentioned and intelligent president have? I feel that generally Obama is right on and I love his words, but I am concerned that he is actually getting very little done that is significantly different from the Bush regime in most areas of real federal policy. Of course there are exceptions, but I am rather skeptical of how things are going if measured against a truly progressive agenda.
April 9, 2009 19:12:46 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:
HomePage:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/08/obama-global-warming-plan_n_184657.html
Comments:Obama's people get it about global warming. What a contrast from Bush!! Again, regarding Joe's general question, the whole bank bailout thing is way over my head, although it certainly doesn't feel right ethically. Whether it's necessary logistically, I have no idea. I was worried to see that Paul Krugman was so critical of the administration's approach, and now even more concerned that George Soros thinks it is the wrong idea. Soros is a pretty shrewd guy when it comes to money, as shrewd as they come.
April 9, 2009 13:12:38 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:I am watching a documentary, An Act of Conscience. It is about war tax protestors in the early 1990's. In a group scene who did I see but Ben Zeman. I keep watching for other marchers. It has been great to explain to my kids new vocabulary words like "affinity group" and "jail solidarity".
April 9, 2009 04:44:58 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
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Comments:who cares about Obama, let's get to the real stuff...James, why are you blowing Marc as usual? Does the hot air refer to something kinky with a hair dryer? Guess if you don't look at this website everyday, you miss out on all the good stuff!
April 9, 2009 04:25:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Talking politics again. I won't mention names but I remember someone on here saying "your politics are yours." I won't be shy here, I'll just say that Obama was elected because he was black. Now I am pleased that a change has happened but I feel that it is still some kind of prejudice. Voting for someone because they are black is the same as not voting for someone because they are black. I heard this a lot from people saying that voted for him because he was black. I know the man has intelligence but a politician is just that, a target for special interest from the left and right, to manipulate. I am sure that the military industrial complex is happy he is staying in Afghanistan at the same time he is trying to sweeten the cup of the antiwar people by pulling out of Iraq.
April 8, 2009 14:29:53 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:I am dubious and apprehensive about Obama's Afghanistan policy. But to be fair, he is doing precisely what he said he would do, as a candidate. (There was no "doublespeak" involved.) I am very grateful for what Obama is trying to do domestically, and the priorities he set forth in his budget, which is a radical departure from the last eight years. In particular, I think he is way ahead of the center of gravity in this country on energy policy. I'm sad that Congress stripped the cap-and-trade carbon emissions reductions from Obama's budget. On matters that concern saving the planet, our president is very progressive. I'm not very hopeful he'll get his ambitious energy agenda through Congress any time soon. But I think he has the exact right idea--both for the engine of our economy going into the future, and the survival of our species. Count me as a fan.
April 7, 2009 20:28:15 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Getting back to Joe's original question, I'd like to say that I am very relieved and pleased with the tone that Obama is setting in the white house. Intelligence, thoughtfulness and civility is a breath of fresh air after 8 years of dumb ass machismo. I think this is especially important in international relations. That said, I see incongruity between what he says and what he does, nothing new for politicians. But, if George Bush had bent to public pressure and said "ok we're pulling out of Iraq in a year. Oh but we're gonna leave 50,000 troops there indefinitely and call them something else. Oh, and every soldier we pull out of Iraq we're sending to afghanistan" the peace movement would have gone wild pointing out the Orwellian double speak. Ditto to the posturing around the AIG bonuses. I'm not anti-Republican, I'm anti-war and anti-economic injustice. Anti-Republicans make themselves known by the disappearance of their critical faculties whenever a Democrat is elected
April 7, 2009 18:59:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:Gates takes a scalpel to the US defense budget
HomePage:http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Gates-takes-scalpel-US-defense/story.aspx?guid={8E42785B-0FCF-
Comments:"The fiscal 2010 request is a 4% climb from last year's budget at $534 billion, making it virtually flat after adjusting for inflation. Supplemental funding, which includes money for overseas fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, was $130 billion, down from about $136 billion in 2009. The latest budget request places more focus on increasing military personnel and benefits." Note that military benefits account for a significant portion of the new budget. I have no problem with that. All sources are questionable, but I'll go with NY Times and MarketWatch.com over antiwar.com. In any event, James, you pasted a quote from the Times article out of context to deliberately present a distorted picture of that story. And previously you posted a claim that Obama was increasing the defense budget, with no source whatsoever. Obviously you had no idea what you were talking about, as you often don't, and I'll stand by the blowhard characterization.
April 7, 2009 18:33:50 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
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Comments:Thank you masked man (or woman)!
April 7, 2009 18:06:01 (GMT Time)


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HomePage:http://news.antiwar.com/2009/04/06/revamped-pentagon-budget-hikes-military-size/
Comments:Secretary of Defense Robert Gates today unveiled aspects of the new US military budget for fiscal 2010. Described as a “fundamental overhaul” of the Pentagon’s budget, it shifts spending priorities from high priced weapons programs in favor of fighting against insurgencies in its assorted wars, both current and future. Gates acknowledged that the cut of the high priced programs, many of which were behind schedule and over budget, would be “controversial.” Indeed the stocks of various military contractors dropped significantly in anticipation of the announced cuts. But though the presentation focused around the massive cuts in weapons, overall spending in the $534 billion budget (which doesn’t include the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan) is actually several percent higher than the budget for 2009. For while Gates cut things like the $140 billion fighter jet program, he will dramatically increase spending on Predator drones and other weapons involved in America’s current wars.
April 7, 2009 15:26:49 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:Marc, you posted the NYT article as proof that Obama is cutting more from the defense budget than he is adding. He may well be doing so, I may have been misinformed, but no where in that article is that clearly stated let alone backed up with concrete numbers. I've avoided for some time engaging with you on issues due to your disrespectful tone ("blowing hot air as usual") but thought I'd make an exception in this instance. It was a mistake I won't repeat.
April 7, 2009 04:21:32 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Also note that even those who are "skeptical" say it is hard to tell HOW MUCH the military budget is decreasing overall, not WHETHER it is being cut.
April 7, 2009 03:29:17 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:The budget is being cut; the question is by how much. James, are you so attached to being "right" that you have to distort? You can't admit you were just blowing hot air (as usual), posting that Obama is increasing the military budget over Bush's? More from the article, with James's quoted passage in more context: "Military experts said Mr. Gates seemed to be mounting a determined effort to rein in some of the most troubled programs after years of record military spending and start dealing with the huge cost overruns . . . . And some military analysts reacted to Mr. Gates’s promise of budget revolution with skepticism. Andrew H. Krepinevich Jr., a military expert at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, said that it was hard to tell how much Mr. Gates was reducing spending over all because he was increasing spending in unspecified amounts in some areas and had not put a net dollar amount on his entire proposal." Note the word "some" in the second to last sentence.
April 7, 2009 02:34:08 (GMT Time)


Name:james
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Comments:There's not a word in the NYT article about Obama cutting military spending overall. "Andrew H. Krepinevich Jr., a military expert at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, said that it was hard to tell how much Mr. Gates was reducing spending over all because he was increasing spending in unspecified amounts in some areas and had not put a net dollar amount on his entire proposal."
April 7, 2009 02:15:34 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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HomePage:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/us/politics/07defense.html?_r=1&hp
Comments:The Obama administration, amidst various restructuring and re-prioritizing, is CUTTING overall defense spending, not increasing it. See above.
April 6, 2009 19:45:49 (GMT Time)


Name:james
Email:me{at}showme.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:He's light years from Bush and better than Clinton but I'm hearing a lot of empty rhetoric. Increasing the military budget over Bush's, leaving an indefinite occupation force of 50,000 in Iraq after the "pull out", stepping up the war in Afghanistan. Hiring the same Clinton de-regulators and privatizers to run his economic policies who started this economic crisis, grandstanding on the AIG bonuses without doing a thing while B of A is giving out 10 times as much in bonuses. That show of indignation was extremely hollow and seemed just a reaction to public outrage. Much much more could have been done to help people who are losing their homes rather than just giving the money to the original gangstas and hoping it trickles down a la Reagan. I hope he's serious about the nuclear weapons. Clinton made the same noises and I was elated when he did his famous photo op blowing up a missile silo. Then he did absolutely nothing on the issue for his remaining 7 yrs.
April 6, 2009 16:33:38 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:While I am not totally pleased with the Obama administration, I am mostly pleased and that is more than I have experienced in a very long time. It seems to me that he certainly is doing most of the right things on nuclear weaponry. I am interested to hear what others think of him.
April 5, 2009 19:09:43 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:
HomePage:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090404/pl_nm/us_obama_europe
Comments:my president
April 5, 2009 05:58:11 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:thank you for the story, Joe. Condolences on your aunt's passing. Indeed, if peace is possible in the family then anything is possible. And in the largest sense we are all related.
April 4, 2009 02:02:44 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Joe, thanks for sharing that. It's a good lesson.
April 3, 2009 14:49:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:Rest in Peace Elmer and Elsie
HomePage:2 of 2
Comments:It has taken most of the last year to heal those wounds that we inflicted upon each other and most of all, upon ourselves during the aftermath of my aunt's death. The bonds of my family were severely strained, but not broken. Tears were shed, apologies were offered and accepted, forgiveness was offered and accepted, significant sacrifices were made. The shadow pain still lingers, but the strains have been repaired. We are all speaking to each other and we all say out loud that we love each other and we are all planning on getting together in Cleveland for Mother's Day, which is above all else, a day of peace. From a place of humility, hope and love, I can say to you, my sisters and brothers from The Great Peace March, that we can have peace. Peace in one's own heart, mind and body, peace in the family, peace in the community, peace in the nation, peace in the world are all achievable in this life. Rest in peace, dad and Aunt Elsie, let the mystery continue to unfold in all its glory.
April 2, 2009 20:49:53 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:Spirit Road//No Hidden Path//Peace Way
HomePage:http://
Comments:One year ago today my beloved Aunt Elsie died. She was 85 and never drove and never used a computer. She lived with her parents until they died in their 90's and then she lived alone until she died. She worked at one job at a department store in downtown Cleveland for about 50 years. She loved her garden and her various dogs over the years. She loved her family and especially her younger brother, my father(Elmer Kinczel), who died in 1992. Her love for my father caused problems with my mother. My mother(Marie) and my aunt hated each other for over 50 years, starting several years before I was born. Their enmity caused friction and division in my family for decades. The greatest difficulty that I have had with my family has been in openly proclaiming my love both for my aunt and for my mother to my aunt and my mother. My aunt's death and the will for her meager estate unleashed a hurricane of grief, anger, resentment and conflict amongst my mother and her four children including myself.
April 2, 2009 20:27:13 (GMT Time)


Name:Lori Shields
Email:lshields{at}xmission.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:Sam Kelley do not be bummed. Take heart! There is another Zion camping trip this Spring. We were few in number (6 marchers and 12 family/friends) but we had a really great time. So great in fact that we are doing it again May 1, 2 and 3. I know it is short notice but if you (any of you) are interested in camping in Zion in May with us, let Angie Frabacilio or me know and we will give you the details. (Which is basically, we have a site but the rest is up to you.) Lori can be reached at the email listed above. Angie (and Logan) can be reached at angiefrab@yahoo.com. Camping in Utah means no bugs and little if any rain. Last year there was biking hiking, playing soccer with the locals, drinking coffee on a balcony overlooking red rocks, eating pizza at the local pizza joint, and chatting or singing around the camp fire.
March 25, 2009 02:17:30 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:
HomePage:http://www.kows.fm
Comments:Happy birthday to all; peace and condolences to all; may all beings be free of suffering; may our collective heart be knit whole. Gratitude to those who keep us connected. For anybody interested, my radio show is on again tomorrow, Wednesday, from 2 to 4 PT, or 5 to 7 ET. URL is above. Thanks in advance for listening if you listen.
March 24, 2009 19:21:02 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Oh fabulous Barb, Colleen et al who have voiced your beautiful thoughts and shared sympathies to Paula and me. This has shown me the love and bond of the Peace March has no boundaries and is never ending. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!
March 23, 2009 16:26:26 (GMT Time)


Name:Sam Kelley
Email:sam{at}sylvancycles.com
HomePage:http://
Comments:Oh Man! I gotta read this thing more often. Zion in '07! Where was I? Big Love from Western Mass. More soon but y'all are ALWAYS in my thoughts and my heart! -Sam
March 23, 2009 15:45:47 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Naneki, I am very sorry to hear about Priscilla. She fought hard and had great support from all of you. My heartfelt sympathy and support for both you and Paula. I lost my best friend to breast cancer 5 years ago. I understand the injustice and sadness. I wish you both some sound sleep to begin with. Then I wish you both some spring sunshine to warm your sorrow.
March 22, 2009 21:55:07 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:It is with a very heavy heart that I write that our dear friend Priscilla Inkpen life partner to Paula Zoller, died this evening at her home. Thank you all for all the love and support you have voiced here through her two years of fighting cancer. Priscilla was a champion for peace and justice. Her name is listed on the Supreme Court Case to overturn amendment 2, an anti gay measure that passed here in Colorado in 1992. She worked for peace and justice most of her life and passed peacefully in her home with Paula by her side as well as her dogs. Please send Paula light and love in this most difficult time.
March 22, 2009 05:03:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Speaking as a Libertarian/Immortalist who aims to avoid death and taxes...maybe I need to define my view a little. Immortal to me simply meant not succumbing to illness or the effects of aging. Actually I'm realizing the questions associated with immortality are way more than I realized. (age of consent laws, school years, who's an elder if we all stop aging at 15?)But I have to admit I've fantasized about going back in time with the knowledge I've accumulated up to now high school would be vastly different!. Of course I also have found myself after sex missing that 19 year old back I once had. Right now I find myself wondering why I even bother dwelling on things like aging and illness when I am planning to ride to L.A. in a couple of months and hiking around Lake Tahoe next spring. And when Tia and I had gone out for about six months we joked we'd get married when we'd been together 20years, now coming up on 14 the humor is fading. Anyway, Happy Birthday to anyone that wants one.
March 21, 2009 20:53:33 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:A guy can't even wish his friend Happy Birthday around here! No good deed goes unpunished! Happy Birthday to everyone whenever that may be. Sorry, indeed, Naneki!
March 21, 2009 18:06:17 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
Email:
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Comments:Ted T, Immortality is trumped by death, any death. As far a living forever I my self could handle it quite well, I would not have to waist my time on thinking about retiring, throw away any thoughts of a 401k and as far as what age we would stop aging may be totally up to the individual. As far as accidental death such as in a car or plain accident or even murder it is a fact that everything we think, do, have done and say is recorded electronically within our bodies. Since this is a fact it is highly probable that one could store all of these individual thoughts, actions, statements and knowledge. When one is in a accident that causes death we could bring them back after repairing there bodies. We have discussed the fact that our accumulated knowledge has caused fingers, skin, bones cartilage to grow back as well as improve eye sight. We have been able to do this in the last 50 to 100 years. 1600 years would be more then enough time to solve the problem of accidental death.
March 21, 2009 16:34:50 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
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HomePage:http://
Comments:Thanks Coleen for thinking I'm cool. My Birthday is March 30th. Barely made it into the March crowd. Hope all is well with everyone.
March 21, 2009 16:19:37 (GMT Time)


Name:Coleen Ashlyc
Email:coleenashly{at}sbcglobal.net
HomePage:http://
Comments:Well, Happy Birthday Naneki! I always knew you were cool, now i know why. When is your march birthday? Happy Birthday to all those who have gone unmentioned since January!
March 21, 2009 09:19:24 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Happy Birthday to all...glad to see I'm in with the cool crowd of March birthdays! Sorry Joe.
March 21, 2009 05:07:54 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Okay, look, I just have to say: I know Joe is a very special person, but his birthday was on January 1, which was nearly three months ago. I bet one or two other people may have had an unremarked-upon birthday in the interim. If people are just going to keep wishing Joe a happy birthday well into March, we might as well wish everyone a happy birthday every day. Then again, since we're born anew with each moment, what would be wrong with that? Happy birthday everybody! And I want to offer a very special birthday greeting to my friend Shanawa, who keeps the possibility of endless birthdays alive with dreams and visions of life never ending.
March 20, 2009 19:20:49 (GMT Time)


Name:Coleen Ashly
Email:coleenashly{at}sbcglobal.net
HomePage:http://
Comments:Well, gosh, happy birthday to Joe and Marc too! Hope you two had great ones!!!
March 20, 2009 18:15:03 (GMT Time)


Name:Coleen Ashly
Email:coleenashly{at}sbcglobal.net
HomePage:http://
Comments:Happy Birthday to all my GPM B-Day buddies, Peter Talbert, Robyn Flynn, annnnnnnnnd, James Knight! Hope you all have great days and many great years ahead!
March 20, 2009 18:10:47 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:
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Comments:I wonder if eternal youth would even be all its cracked up to be. I suspect there'd be a downside to that as well. In any case, Shanawa, I appreciate the b-day wish and perhaps we all do live forever anyway in a "recycling of the elements" kind of way.
March 20, 2009 18:04:55 (GMT Time)


Name:sonia
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HomePage:http://
Comments:In Greek mythology, the goddess of the Dawn, Eos, asked Zeus for her lover Tithonus to be immortal but forgot to ask for eternal youth. He became aged, unable to move, and was eventually turned into a grasshopper or cicada, living eternally, begging for death.
March 20, 2009 14:14:51 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:No dis intended Shanawa...but let's discuss this. Ignoring the "live forever, overpopulation problem" how would you handle living forever? Immortality is trumped by accidental death, which I remember reading somewhere means your lifespan will be roughly around 1600 something years on average. Look around you...does your partner, spouse, fwb look the same?...does the environment mean a little more?....does my 401K really matter?...and how would you figure out when to retire?....and when would aging stop?...after puberty?..mid 20's?...50's?...any takers?.
March 20, 2009 05:54:29 (GMT Time)


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Comments:And Joe too.....
March 20, 2009 03:53:13 (GMT Time)


Name:nancy
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Comments:a very happy (and very belated) birthday to you, mr. wordsmith!
March 19, 2009 23:30:25 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Happy Birthday Marc, May you live forever.
March 19, 2009 17:01:54 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Following in the footsteps of the wise ones, I shall now inaugurate the second 51 years of my life with chocolate.
March 15, 2009 19:30:42 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
Email:Humm along Marc!
HomePage:http://
Comments:You say it's your birthday It's my birthday too--yeah They say it's your birthday We're gonna have a good time I'm glad it's your birthday Happy birthday to you.
March 15, 2009 14:36:32 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:Hi, Barbara -- If Stanley wants to cross the continent, you can send him to Cape Cod. We could show him the Atlantic ocean, a JFK statue and a few other local landmarks. He's not allergic to cats, is he? -- Bill O (boneill@REMOVETHIScape.com)
March 13, 2009 20:00:25 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
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Comments:Barb, thank you so much for your kind words in this most difficult time. I am stronger knowing the Peace March Family sends its love and energy to all of us.
March 10, 2009 02:52:15 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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HomePage:http://
Comments:Some years back a number of you participated in my son's Flat Stanley/Flat Pharoah project. Flat Pharoah travelled all over the world (lucky paper doll!!). It was a fantasic success. We made a display of all of the treasures and the exhibit got a blue ribon at our fair. This year it is my daughter's turn. Her school does it in a condensed and simplified version. Her Stanley will visit only one town and it has to be in the United States. SOOOOOOOOOO we are seeking a Peace March friend to send Stanley to, hopefully out of California. All that is needed is for you to send him back with memorabelia of your area or activities he joins in with. Is anyone up for it?
March 9, 2009 02:16:51 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Naneki, I know that you too need well wishes. Paula and Priscilla are very close to you. I am sure you are bearing much weight through this. Stay strong sister. We are praying for you too.
March 9, 2009 01:57:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Naneki
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Comments:If any of you would like to send email wishes,prayers,miracles to Paula and Priscilla, Paula's email is paula_zoller@yahoo.com You are right Joe about it would take a miracle but I keep reminding Priscilla that miracles do happen as we all know from the March. Hope everyone is well.
March 8, 2009 23:24:22 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Sorry Marc....Sorry....not the Richard. He was on my mind.
March 8, 2009 21:54:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Thanks Richard...This Easter will mark 20 years since Jack Mento and I were arrested at the NTS and given the first federal charges since the 50's. That Yucca is in such trouble really has been a long time coming and I do feel vindicated somewhat. I've stood beside (and loved, and been jailed with) a lot of people and it is bittersweet to see this when some of them didn't...like No Nukes, Norb, Corbin Harney, Bill Rossi....the list is sadly long. So thanks again, I realize how large my particuclar little bubble is with the memories of allies, living, missing, and passed on..and all loved...maybe by 2011 we can shut down production.
March 8, 2009 21:52:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Joe
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Comments:Here are a few news flashes. I am in Florida visiting with one of the Russkies from the IPW walks, Dimitry Demine who came from Moscow to visit me here on Sanibel Island for a few days. Meanwhile back home in Colorado Kevin Deame came to The Frozen Dead Guy Days in Nederland and took the plunge into the resevoir as par of the festivities. Check it out at http://www.nederlandchamber.org/events_fdgd-home.html. Finally some sad news. Paula Zoller's longtime partner, Priscilla Inkpen, is at home under hospice care after a long battle with cancer. Time for another miracle.
March 7, 2009 22:52:53 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Frank, I went to the Green Schools Conference in Anaheim in December. Environmental Charter students were actively involved in the conference. I went to one of the workshops they hosted. GREAT SCHOOL! Relevant learning.
March 7, 2009 16:32:51 (GMT Time)


Name:Tall Bicycle Frank
Email:busydays{at}landofla.wow
HomePage:http://
Comments:I meant to look and post 3/1, talk about starting at Murray's Tickets etc. I helped Crystal with her homework instead. She is bright, but more in a here-and-now way than an abstract academic way. She is at Environmental Charter, her 3rd HS in 6 months, and finally the right one. The local HS was too easy, and the online HS too hard and not enough help. Thank you Shanawa for your alerts. The Bushistas certainly had us on the fast track to fascism, and so many things could turn on a dime if the fascists thought they saw the right moment to strike. On a related note, we knew Barbara Bush was hard-hearted, but we did not know she would actually need surgery. Way to go Marc; happy radio waves. Good to hear from you Kim. I remember your post-GPM youth group. Those were the days, eh? I love to tune in to this ongoing sharing/discussion/debate, even when I am too tired to say much, and I am so glad this e-campfire is here. 23 years since the GPM, and 7 until the next one? No nukes is next!
March 7, 2009 16:00:07 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:So quiet! Are we all shy? Or do we have nothing to say? Or am I the only one who trolls around here just about every day to see if anyone has posted? It seems to me that perhaps part of the "problem" is that people feel ignored if they post and no one responds to them directly. So from now on I will try to respond to at least one person in every post. And I do want to say, Ted, thanks for posting that story about Yucca Mountain. Hasn't that been a cause amongst our friends (and many of us) for years, trying to prevent the feds from dumping the waste there? It's reason to celebrate a success, isn't it?, that Obama has put the kibosh on that idea. Thanks for letting us know, Ted. Your post is the only place I've read about it.
March 7, 2009 09:52:20 (GMT Time)


Name:Kim Montes
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Comments:Hi Bill - great to hear from you! And hello to all my long lost friends and BR neighbors. I felt so nostalgic yesterday when I saw the youtube video of Pete Seeger and Bruce Springsteen, saw the crowds singing and cheering, and remembered Pete and his support of the march. Could not figure out why I felt so weepy until I noticed the anniversary date. My heart misses all of you.
March 3, 2009 01:14:10 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:Marc. thanks for sharing that list. I'd say about a third are performers I know well (the Waterboys, Richard Thompson, Nick Drake and the GPMers are among my favorites), a third are performers I've heard a little bit, and a third are names that are new to me. I'll have to use the wonders of YouTube, etc., to check out some of the folkies on your list. Glad you played Brenda and CV's version of "Patriot" on your show. I get choked up just thinking about that version and I usually start crying when I hear it. Very beautiful and powerful.
March 1, 2009 16:40:26 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:Thinking of you all today and that amazing adventure we started 23 years ago today. Special hellos to Kim (formerly Dougherty) and the rest of our BR/Maluhia neighbors.
March 1, 2009 16:35:56 (GMT Time)


Name:Kim (Dougherty) Montes
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HomePage:http://
Comments:Hello friends, 23 years ago today we celebrated the beginning of our long walk for peace. Remember that energy, hope, optimism and power.
March 1, 2009 16:16:48 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:And I played Collective Vision, featuring Brenda singing "Patriot", to open my show last month, which was on a couple of days after Obama's inauguration. Was anyone listening??? After that I played a new version of "Lay Down" by Melanie that really rocked, and "There's No One As Irish As Barack Obama" by the Corrigan Brothers.
March 1, 2009 04:28:09 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:Thanks for asking, Bill!
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Comments:Bill, my current favorite "alt folkies" include The Innocence Mission, Nick Drake, Eve Decker, Steeleye Span, Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer, Rachel Garlin, Trees, and Katell Keineg, all of whom I play a lot. In recent shows I've also played Joules Graves, Jim Page, Rebecca Riots, Livingston Taylor, Trace Wiren, Darryl Purpose, Horslips, Dispatch, Ruby Blue, 2 Nice Girls, Green and Root, Linda Waterfall, the Levellers, Joanna Cazden, the Strawbs, and Tom Robinson. Somewhat better known artists I play include Bruce Cockburn, Maddy Prior, Fairport Convention, Pentangle, Incredible String Band, Kristin Hersh, early Jane Siberry, Kinky Friedman, Melanie, Waterboys, Gong, Richard & Linda Thompson, and Leonard Cohen. I also play mainstream stuff like Rickie Lee Jones, the Beatles, Van Morrison, Allman Brothers, Edie Brickell, the Byrds, Pete Townshend, Sly & Family Stone, Cat Stevens, Stevie Wonder, Andrews Sisters(!), Joni Mitchell. Other stuff too. I try to mix it up but keep it coherent.
March 1, 2009 04:26:03 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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Comments:Marc, who are some of the "alt folk" performers that you play on your show? Meant to catch it this time around, but had to leave the house that afternoon. Keep on giving us reminders when it's your time of the month.
March 1, 2009 03:15:25 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Obama Rejects Nuclear Waste Site After 20-Year Fight, President Barack Obama won’t let nuclear waste be stored at Yucca Mountain in Nevada, rejecting the project after 20 years of planning at a cost of at least $9 billion. Obama and Energy Secretary Steven Chu “have been emphatic that nuclear waste storage at Yucca Mountain is not an option, period,” said department spokeswoman Stephanie Mueller. The federal budget plan Obama released today “clearly reflects that commitment,” she said. “The new administration is starting the process of finding a better solution for management of our nuclear waste,” Mueller said in an e-mail today. Obama’s decision leaves unresolved a long-term plan for nuclear waste, primarily from power plants, even as utility companies seek to build more reactors
March 1, 2009 02:10:46 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Thanks Marc, I'll check it out when it is your show. I would like to hear some of your music.
February 28, 2009 17:41:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Thanks for asking, Shanawa. Mostly I just play music, sometimes with a bit of commentary between sets of songs. Lately my friend has been coming into the studio during the second half of my show and he shares little news items or quotes and we chat about them for a few minutes and then if I can I try to play music that is relevant to what we're talking about. My friend and I share the radio show, which is actually on twice a month (2nd and 4th Wednesdays). The second Wednesday of the month, my friend is the main deejay and I come in halfway through the show with conversational tidbits for him. Then we reverse roles on the fourth Wednesday of each month, and that is what I refer to as "my show" because I control the music. My friend and I have starkly different tastes in music, and so our shows are very different from each other. I play mostly alt folk and pop; he's a bit more eclectic with hip hop and world music and sometimes harder edged punky or hard-to-classify stuff.
February 27, 2009 18:12:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:What was you show about this week Marc?
February 27, 2009 16:28:23 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Thanks, Ted! I really appreciate it! I sometimes feel like the guy in the Pink Floyd song who says "Hey! Is there anybody out there?" But it's fun all the same.
February 26, 2009 18:17:43 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
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Comments:Marc, caught part of your show. Nice mix, lot of stuff I hadn't heard before..normally I listen to KPIG.
February 26, 2009 17:13:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Hey Mark how does it feel to be experiencing "that time of the month".
February 26, 2009 14:23:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:my radio show!
HomePage:http://www.kows.fm
Comments:That time of month again: This Wednesday, 2 p.m. PT, at the above URL.
February 24, 2009 06:50:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
Email:
HomePage:http://nolinkformydream
Comments:Dreamed about the peace march last night (not for the first time). Lots of familiar faces were there: Chris Ball, Evan C, Sonia, Bj, my BR neighbors Janis and Mary, and many more. I walked into a room where people were setting up displays. There was a piano in the room and Bob Alei was playing, ragtime style. Didn't know that was one of his many talents. Bob IS god.
February 19, 2009 15:39:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
Email:
HomePage:http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200903/editors-note
Comments:Portrait of a Hamas leader by an editor of The Atlantic. Fascinating.
February 19, 2009 07:37:20 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:That is all fine with me but I just felt that this is too important to not be known. You know that this is the first time that I have ever posted this way but it is a monster they created. All should know about this and be informed. Forgive me if I sounded harsh but again you all know me as a man who dose not hold back and always says what is on my heart mind.
February 18, 2009 18:22:03 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
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Comments:Not telling you what to do Shanawa, just voicing an opinion. If a story exists on the internet a link and a synopsis allows people who are interested to access it and everyone else doesn't have to scroll through pages of something they're not interested in. Just a courtesy. We had this discussion on this page years ago and that was the general conclusion. But, like the peace march, there's no enforcement, wouldn't want any, so do what you please. Anarchy in action!
February 18, 2009 01:55:46 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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HomePage:http://
Comments:I forgot to put a question mark behind the second sentence. I'll do the way you want to?????
February 17, 2009 22:25:55 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:James and ted you do things your way I'll do the way you want to. I find it funny that you find my post more of a problum then what the post has uncovered.
February 17, 2009 22:21:47 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Indeed. I think a link and a brief synopsis would suffice.
February 17, 2009 21:59:16 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted T.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:WTF?!?.
February 17, 2009 03:18:19 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Learn what the NWO does not want you to know -- how to survive the onslaught! This article is from -- www.infowars.net
February 16, 2009 21:00:24 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:> Response to "Three States Subjected To Martial Law Sweeps" > Sheriff Candidate Believes Crime Is Terrorism > Socially Engineering the Public for Martial Law > "Martial Law" Declared in Arkansas Town > Feds have high hopes for National Dta Exchange Program > Law Enforcement Agencies Join Together for "Anti- Terrorism Initiative > Is FEMA &DHS preparing for mass GRsves and Martial near Chicago? > Local Police Want Right to Jam Wireless Signals > FBI and Homeland Security Behind martial Law Exercises in Indianapolis > States to Give Cops Authority to Stop Motorists Not Wearing Seat Belts > Governor Proposes Martial Law Choppers for Chicago > Blackjack Part 3: Telegraph Continues Propaganda Piece, Depicts Concentration Camps,Martial Law (Available from link on this website: )
February 16, 2009 20:58:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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HomePage:http://
Comments:Centralized and federally coordinated law enfrcement programs complement NATIONWIDE PROGRAMS TO TRAIN PASTORS and other religious representstives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the govrnment" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearms seizures, mass vaccination programs, and forced relocation.The effects of this program have already been witnessed. (More related articles on the website: )
February 16, 2009 20:57:37 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:In light of this, and given that the government has begun toclassify any crime as terrorism andset local and state police to work on "anti-terror" operations, it is clear thatthe protections provided by the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are under direct threat. We have seen how new provisions will effectively nullify the U.S.Constitution, and a recent spate of executive orders, in particular PDD51, outlines PREPARATIONS FOR THE IMPLEMENTSTION OF OPEN MARTISL LAW in the event of a declared national emergency.
February 16, 2009 20:56:42 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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HomePage:http://
Comments:The information and intelligence from the operation will be collated and routed through federally funded STATE FUSION CENTERS, which are working in conjunction woth the military arm of the DHS, NORTHCOM. Such information will soon include the "DNA and other biometric information" from every person arrested, which DHS head Michael Chertoff HAS DECLARED is no longer your personal information. We recently reported on the fact that after 9/11 the Justice Department advised the Bush administration that it was able to effectively SUSPEND THE FOURTH AMENDMENT where domestic counter-terrorism operations are concerned.
February 16, 2009 20:55:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:If there was a real threat in these states, it would surely make sense for law enforcement sgencies to target known trouble areas and follow up on existing leads. Instead we are seeing local police ahd the Coast Guard being recruited to randomly target anyone in any area as possible terrorists. Surely if there was a real terror threat, this activity would harm the effort to combat it. Of course, such activity is clearly not related to a real and tangible threat, it id related to the ongoing effort to vastly increase the size and scope of the federal government and increase the power it has over American citizens.
February 16, 2009 20:54:25 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:An infowars reader called in to the Alex Jones show yesterday (4-17-08), to alert us to the story and explained that he gleaned the information from a friend, a Sheriff's deputy in Memphis, who had described the operation as "training for martial law in America". Forget innocent until proven guilty, you are now a terrorist suspect until you are told otherwise. It is now the norm to consider everybody equally likely to be guilty of something, rather than innocent. This is proactive policing, not preventive or reactive policing, and is widely indicative of a society that is NOT free. This form of pfoactive policing is a phenomena indicative of a once free state rapidly declining into an authoritarian police state.
February 16, 2009 20:53:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:The authorities even RAIDED BUSINESSES AND STORE OWNERS, confiscating computers and paperwork in an effort to "track down possible terrorists before something big happens". The Sheriff's Department is determining if and when they plan another round up. The operation, which involved police, deputies, the FBI, drug agents, gang units, and even the Coast Guard is just one example of how law enforcement at the state and local levels is being co-opted by the department of Homeland Security via massive federal grants. It also highlighted how the distinction between CRIME and TERRORISM is becoming irrelevant.
February 16, 2009 20:52:34 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Given the military style name "OPERATION SUDDEN IMPACT", the initiative saw officers from six counties rounding up fugitives, conducting traffic checkpoints, climbing on boats on the Mississippi River and doing other "crime abatement" programs all under the label of "anti-terrorism". WREG Memphis News Channel 3 reported that the Sheriff's Department arrested 332 people, 142 of whom were fugitives, or "terrorists", as they now seem to be known. Hundreds of dollars were seized and drugs recovered, and 1,292 traffic violations were handed out to speeding terrorists and illegally parked terrorists. (Video here on their website)
February 16, 2009 20:51:04 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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HomePage:I had to show you this
Comments:"MARTIAL LAW EXERCISE 2008" (This is the article in its entirety, for you to see for yourself!) TARGET STATES SUBJECT TO "MARTIAL LAW SWEEPS" Steve Watson Infowars.net Friday. April 18, 2008 Federal law enforcement agencies co-opted sheriffs offices as well as state and local police forces in three states last weekend for a vast round up operation that one sheriff's deputy has described as "martial law training". Law enforcement agencies in Tennessee, Mississippi, and Arkansas tool part in what was described by local MEDIA as "an anti-crime and anti-terrorism initiative", involving officers from more than 50 federal, state and local agencies.
February 16, 2009 20:48:44 (GMT Time)


Name:Coleen Ashly
Email:coleenashly{at}sbcglobal.net
HomePage:http://
Comments:Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we did it!!! "The Senate version of the bill had contained $4.6 billion for the research and development of carbon-capture-and-sequestration technologies for coal-fired power plants and $50 billion in loan guarantees for the nuclear industry, but that funding appears to have been dropped entirely, to the delight of enviros." (copied from Huffington Post.)
February 13, 2009 23:09:14 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:Small traces of hope. It looks like Netanyahu may not have won the Israeli election. According to exit polls, Tzipi Livni may have edged him out. That would be a good thing.
February 10, 2009 23:29:48 (GMT Time)


Name:James
Email:
HomePage:http://act.peaceactionwest.org/peaceactionwest/issues/alert/?alertid=12607681
Comments:See above for an action to stop the Senate's billion dollar theft from the stimulus package to fund nuclear weapons.
February 10, 2009 20:26:16 (GMT Time)


Name:Marylyn Scott
Email:motherbearscott{at}mindspring.com
HomePage:http://www.goddessgather.com
Comments:Hi to each and all, It's been a sweet time here with Coleen, Dennis and their darling daughter Abigail who turned 6 yesterday. Liz was here each day of my visit, Judith came by in between work shifts, Tom came later, Katea and Bryan as well, and of course, Jessie, Evan and Noa. We reminisced, looked at lots of great photos, shared current lives, offered up some spoken word. I had a great Marcher in the Bar experience, met good Ojai folks, and heard Tom's son, Sunny play with his band. It was fun and the band is great! ... very danceable! We are of an age! And still, vitality and love is vibrant, palpable. Blessed be thee, Peace Marchers and Keepers of the Flame. Marylyn (Motherbear Scott aka Brandon)
February 9, 2009 17:34:23 (GMT Time)


Name:Ted t.
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Is that anything like everyone blowing their own trumpet?
February 7, 2009 18:16:02 (GMT Time)


Name:Bill O
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HomePage:http://
Comments:"like a big jazz band, all following the same piece of music but each performing our wild solos" -- what a great description!
February 7, 2009 03:01:12 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Don't forget that at Red Rocks, AFTER the all night session, Pete was up with us early birds cleaning the camp. Very humble and hardworking. Then Pete was aboard his ship in the Hudson river waving at us as we walked over the George Washington bridge into New York. (Unless you went to Donahue that day)
February 6, 2009 23:25:58 (GMT Time)


Name:James
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Comments:One of my favorite bits never in the GPM documentary is a wonderful riff Pete Seeger did about the march, after a tour of peace city in Lake Anita. After seeing the loose but functional anarchist structure of the march he described us as being like a big jazz band, all following the same piece of music but each performing our wild solos. I loved that and I loved seeing him perform "This Land" with Bruce Springsteen at Obama's inaugural, with all the forbidden lyrics intact. Beautiful man.
February 6, 2009 18:45:34 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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HomePage:http://www.nobelprize4pete.org/endorse.html
Comments:Speaking of Pete Seeger, who can forget that he made TWO very cherished and treasured visits to us on the March? Who will ever forget Red Rock, CO – in the rain and mucky mud – when he stayed up all night in yellow (I believe) town hall tent and led us in glorious song? And the time in Lake Anita, Iowa when after a performance of Shakespeare’s “Twelfth Night” – when the entire cast held hands and ran to one end of the porta-potties, they emerged around the other end with (SURPRISE!) Pete and his banjo! There is a campaign now to nominate Pete for the Nobel Peace Prize. Please go the link above. Notice that among the many organizations endorsing this is Rebecca Riots, “radical folk” trio, Berkeley CA. At our place here in Rossmoor we will show twice on February 9 – in our 150 seat theater - the loving documentary “The Power of Song,” about Pete’s life. In it he openly admits he was once a member of the Communist Party, but there was not, in his mind, anything “subversive” about that.
February 6, 2009 18:15:39 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
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Comments:Shanawa, Every posted I quoted has a cited source. I gave 5 different sources, 3 were internal Neo Tech sites. I have not been vague about my sources. I made them available for everyone to read and decide for themselves. It is the Neo Tech sites that bother me the most. To me,they are filled with strange statements. Particularly the stand against other beliefs that have "mysticism" then they talk about Zon and God-men and God-women. It is a complete contradiction. As for categorizing, I specifically said I agreed with Joe about, "not categorizing us as being leashed or fenced in" because we don't share your world view. I catagorize things on a moment by moment basis all day long. Every animal does. I didn't ask you not to catagorize in general, I was specific to calling us "leashed or fenced in". By the way, I am not a Democrat so you can take me out of that category. I also don't care to read what the FBI said. If I believed them I would call Pete Seeger a communist subversive.
February 6, 2009 13:57:16 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:It may seem that I am byest but then I am in this organization and I have only found good in it. If you don't like me to categorize you then you should not categorize an organization I am a part of. Is that not fare. I am behind the 12 visions party 100%, its new, exciting and something other then Democrat or Republican. Or should I say that I am not comfortable with this choice of your's to be a Democrat. If you ask me the Republican party is something more fearful then Neo tec ever was. Just look what they have done. I say this becouse I know our friendship is strong. Please be more objective, Don't just take what you read at face value my dear friend.
February 6, 2009 02:56:33 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments: It reminds me of the slander placed on AIM. I would only suggest that you refrain from you harsh judgment till you know what they are about and not just read off the Internet what it's enemies have written. A good sleuth finds out everything before they lay judgment. I believe all you have read is from one source and not many. But in any case see who wrote those statements about the 12 visions party you will probably find that they come from those that don't like Neo Tec. If you got if from the FBI then I can only tell you that it is the organization that we really need to worry about after all it's the FBI that said that AIM is a terrorist group. In any case please name the source that gives this erroneous information. At least we can go after them for slander. Yes, I feel we will always be friends but you can at least take my word.
February 6, 2009 02:54:57 (GMT Time)


Name:Shanawa
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Comments:Barbara I don't get it, just what have you learned that makes you so uncomfortable. Yes, it is my choice. You have mentioned that you really like what Joe said about not categorizing us as being leashed or fenced in. That his words were very thoughtful. Granted, but tell me how can you feel it is good to categorize The 12 visions party and everything it is associated with, with such fear and deep reservations. You really know nothing about this to make such a judgment. Just what did this organization do to you for you to make such statements or even to know anything about it except what you read? Has it harmed anyone you know? I have been with Neo tec for over two years and I have found nothing out of hand, This group has done no violence, nor has it done anythings to harm others. How can you say that you don't like me categorizing things about you but you can turn around and do the same to the organization I am a part of? An organization that has helped me tremendously.
February 6, 2009 02:52:50 (GMT Time)


Name:Barbara
Email:
HomePage:http://
Comments:Gene, Speaking of chess, Matthew was dissapointed that you and June weren't at the reunion to challenge him in chess. Maybe this year.
February 5, 2009 14:43:48 (GMT Time)


Name:Marc
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Comments:I suck at chess. Now try beating my modesty, Gene!
February 5, 2009 08:15:35 (GMT Time)


Name:Gene
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Comments:Darn it, Barbara, my subtle wit - sly hyperbole and all - was lost on you. I wanted to say you did a great bit of sleuthing, and say it strongly. But with humor! Did I mean it literally when I said your sleuthing was the “most important service in the history of this page”? That was just my way of making a forceful (but funny) point and at the same time making a reference to our shared experience on this Peace March page – something we can all relate to, OUR HISTORY. Same thing with my reference to the “sickening spam” that plagued us so long. That indeed was a major episode in our collective experience on this page. In mock immodesty I called attention to my role. Or was I mocking? Perhaps I truly am immodest. I always did say I’m in the same class as Katea and Sarah Seeds. (There again I allude to our common history. I guess it’s my way of having fun and drawing us all together.) As modest as Marc I can never be. Again he beats me, just as he always does in chess. Ah, well...
February 5, 2009 07:28:07 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Gene, Thanks for your kind words, however I don't think that my sleuthing was the "most important service in the history of this page". I really appreciate your sentiments and I particularly appreciate your support. Shanawa, I am not comfortable with this choice of yours but I am not going to reject our friendship over it. I think you know that. It is your choice. I certainly want you to have happiness and success. But I will continue to have deep reservations about this association based on what I have learned. I really like what Joe said about not categorizing us as being leashed or fenced in. His words were very thoughtful. Let us know how it turns out.
February 5, 2009 06:04:52 (GMT Time)


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Comments:You are too modest, Marc.
February 4, 2009 23:51:54 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Joe, thanks for the credit! But I didn't implement that software and I'm not sure who did. Probably Julia.
February 4, 2009 22:05:10 (GMT Time)


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Comments:See what you have done Barbara I have the greatest PI's in the GPM internet looking into this. Have fun in your investagations Gene, and Yes, Thank you so much for getting rid of that spam. Thank you Joe well said.
February 4, 2009 17:41:33 (GMT Time)


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Comments:It was TNH, short for Tich nachth Hanh. To say the least it was an ironic moniker for the posts that Frank was writing. Thank you Gene, for coming up with the way to get rid of spam, and we must also thank Marc who implemented that software which saved this site. As to Shanawa's association with the 12 Visions, I support you Shanawa in pursuing your own path and your own beliefs. As long as you keep yourself safe and sane and do not hurt yourself or others, your beliefs are your own affair. That said I really am not interested in you calling me fearful, or in you categorizing me as being leashed or fenced in. I am none of those things. I hope Shanawa, that you do not need to denigrate the rest of us to feel good about or to defend your own beliefs. That surely is NOT the way. Shanawa, I want you to live freely and in wealth and health and with increasing knowledge, love and generosity. I want those goals for myself and I rejoice in your pursuit and attainment of them. Namaste.
February 4, 2009 17:35:32 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Religion and philosophy are big subjects with me so I really want to dig into Zonpower. I’d never heard of it. Barbara did an excellent bit of sleuthing, the best detective work since Joe figured out that Frank Holmgren was - what the heck was his alias? It’s been so long. Yes, Barbara, you performed the most important service in the history of this Peace March page – the most important since someone suggested how we could get rid of that sickening spam that went on for ever. (Hey, that someone was ME!) I’ve learned so far that Zonpower promises “limitless riches, romantic charisma, and nonaging beauty.” I read that “a Scientology-like cult, Neo-Tech promises, through the utilization of its 'technology,' to deliver limitless power, wealth, and love by tapping into a cosmic force known as 'Zon.' They believe that humanity is poised for an evolutionary 'jump' into a 'God-Man,' a state involving the gifts of immortality and infinite happiness." Ayn Rand is one of their heroes. More later.
February 4, 2009 07:23:31 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Shanawa wrote, "Zon . . . is hypothetical in nature but based on the fact the numbers alone tell us there is other life in the universe." I would not choose to dispute that. It reminds me of something my seventh grade science teacher told my class, back in 1970 or '71. He said (and he repeated it to make sure we understood!) that, given the vast expanse of the universe, scientists had determined that it is a MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY (that was the phrase he used, and repeated) that human beings exist on other planets somewhere in the universe, and that some of them SPEAK ENGLISH. I mean, how far out is that? That was my science teacher talking. He never did or said anything else that might be deemed strange. Nor did he cite his sources. But then, we were kids. We didn't demand references. His word was good enough.
February 4, 2009 00:40:28 (GMT Time)


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Comments:Then there are those that are not as advanced as we are who have to survive the Nuclear threshold to get to the Civilization of the Universe. In essence Zon is one of us but one who has acquired great knowledge. One need not pray, devote, sacrifice, have elaborate rituals or keel down to this Zon. To me if there is a god it is the Terra ferma. All the earth as well as the universe itself. We can take from it and it still provides like a loving parent. Some day I see that we will treat the inhabitable planets like the garden planets and no longer take from them but will take from the planets we can not live on. To answer you and your husband's question Barbara I am no Zonbie. Nice joke though. We just simply don't acknowledge Zon like the old god or gods of the past. And we certainly don't use Zon to control peoples lives and minds. That would go against the right of the individual. Marc, It too look forward to more bantering my friend.
February 3, 2009 18:00:15 (GMT Time)


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Comments:You see that this in itself leaves no place for a cult to exist. Cults are controlled by a few, all are driven by clergy. There is no mention of Zon or any other god that is used to manipulate and control the individual. This simply is no breading ground for a cult. On Zon, it is hypothetical in nature but based on the fact the numbers alone tell us there is other life in the universe. That some are way more advanced then ours but have not come to take anything away from us such as raw materials because as a Civilization of the universe they see that there is more then enough for all in an expanding and never ending universe. They simply have no need for war or conquering.
February 3, 2009 17:57:50 (GMT Time)


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Comments:The Prime Law (The Fundamental of Protection) Preamble "The purpose of human life is to prosper and live happily." " The